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2012 MacBook Pro Powers on By Itself on Rough Roads

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Re: 2012 MacBook Pro Powers on By Itself on Rough Roads

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Post by w1ntermute »

bzbarsky wrote: post #88
w1ntermute wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wasn't aware of that price difference. Why is the Retina MBP so much cheaper, despite the more expensive screen? And when I say unsupported, I mean that they look crappy because they don't have Retina support.

I can't tell you for sure on the price difference.... Maybe not needing the extra stuff like the SSD housing and whatnot matters? Or maybe it's just arbitrary pricing? Or maybe a way to encourage people to buy retina machines? Who knows, outside Apple. > I mean that they look crappy because they don't have > Retina support. Well, more precisely they look just like they do a non-retina mbp. Which is worse than Safari…

Yes, they would look the same as on a non-retina MBP. The point is that when placed right next to the Retina apps, the difference would be jarring/distracting.

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Post by r00fus »

mikeash wrote: post #28
bergie wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had the first generation MacBook Air, and if I was using it outside, it would shut down the instant sun peeked from behind the clouds. They later solved this in a firmware update, but still, first-generation Apple products are usually best to be avoided. There are exceptions, of course. For example, I've heard of no major defects in the 1st gen iPad.

More of a deliberate cost tradeoff than a defect, but the first iPad only included 256MB of RAM, which is woefully inadequate for the number of pixels it has to drive. As a result, it will not get new OS updates starting with iOS 6, and a lot of other software is unhappy on it. It's not bad , but the second version was considerably better.

The 2010 iPad is still a great piece of gear and despite not having iOS6, will still run games and apps pretty well.

By 2013, a lot of apps will have migrated to iOS6, and the iPad1 might start to lose some of the platform benefits, but will still be a solid device.

Re: 2012 MacBook Pro Powers on By Itself on Rough Roads

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Post by MiguelHudnandez »

nanijoe wrote: post #26
forthewyn wrote: post #9

I keep hearing things like this about the Retina MBPro. Dangit I WANT one, but my spidey sense keeps insisting that this is first round, early adopter technology and that I'll be MUCH happier if I hang onto my early 2008 17" MBPro for another few months or maybe a year until the next laptop line bump from Apple.

I just replaced my 2008 MBPro with the Retina MBPro, and all I can say is that if you use it for actual work, you need to upgrade ASAP. The difference in performance is HUGE..

If your old MacBook didn't have an SSD, that is probably what most of the difference is.

Or do you mean that the retina screen makes you perform better? :)

Re: 2012 MacBook Pro Powers on By Itself on Rough Roads

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Post by dustingetz »

arrrg wrote: post #53
forthewyn wrote: post #9

I keep hearing things like this about the Retina MBPro. Dangit I WANT one, but my spidey sense keeps insisting that this is first round, early adopter technology and that I'll be MUCH happier if I hang onto my early 2008 17" MBPro for another few months or maybe a year until the next laptop line bump from Apple.

Don’t buy. Not as long as they horrific image retention problem isn’t solved and acknowledged by Apple. (It isn’t.)

What? I'm about to buy, what problem are you speaking of?

Re: 2012 MacBook Pro Powers on By Itself on Rough Roads

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Post by sanswork »

crag wrote: post #64
thegooley wrote: post #46

I haven't seen this particular issue, but I have had a whole bunch of strange, likely firmware-related issues on my Retina. For instance, sometimes the screen just won't shut off when trying to put it to sleep - Closing the lid and the screen/logo stay lit up indefinitely. Chrome and the integrated graphics card really don't play well together - it's caused an OS reboot 10's of times in the past month. Mostly, waking…

I also have a problem with slow shutdowns. Sometimes it takes 30 seconds to shut the machine down. Much less time to boot.

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Re: 2012 MacBook Pro Powers on By Itself on Rough Roads

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Post by bzbarsky »

w1ntermute wrote: post #91
bzbarsky wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't tell you for sure on the price difference.... Maybe not needing the extra stuff like the SSD housing and whatnot matters? Or maybe it's just arbitrary pricing? Or maybe a way to encourage people to buy retina machines? Who knows, outside Apple. > I mean that they look crappy because they don't have > Retina support. Well, more precisely they look just like they do a non-retina mbp. Which is worse than Safari…

Yes, they would look the same as on a non-retina MBP. The point is that when placed right next to the Retina apps, the difference would be jarring/distracting.

That's possible. Assuming you use any retina apps, of course. I'm looking at the apps I'm using right now, and none would actually be making full use of the retina display on a retina mbp.

I guess if/when I ran iPhoto it might look jarring. If I weren't running it full-screen on its own desktop, of course.

All of which is to say that it really depends on individual usage patterns.

Re: 2012 MacBook Pro Powers on By Itself on Rough Roads

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Post by arrrg »

dustingetz wrote: post #94
arrrg wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t buy. Not as long as they horrific image retention problem isn’t solved and acknowledged by Apple. (It isn’t.)

What? I'm about to buy, what problem are you speaking of?

After ten minutes or so of displaying the same image (e.g. your browser UI), a faint (but very noticeable, even readable if you had displayed text) afterimage remains on the screen for a few minutes. It's visible on any dark gray background and even just dark backgrounds in general.

This problem frequently shows up with MBPr screens from LG (I'm not aware of any problems with Samsung screens, which is the other supplier). It may take a few days of use until the problems show up and it may also be heat related (so machines that have been running for some time are maybe more likely to exhibit the problem).

I'm at the moment letting Apple replace the second screen, if the problem remains I will withdraw from the contract of sale.

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