Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts

Post by makeitdouble » Tue, Sep 02, 2025, 10:47 PM UTC

dragonwriter wrote: post #92

b112 wrote: post #63

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So... Google's punishment is to stop paying Apple and Mozilla for default search deals?! Well I guess that'll help?! (Yes, judges can search for best market solutions)

No, the actual remedy is not yet decided in detail (though sharing some search data is going to be part of it), this ruling was basically setting some parameters of what is on and off the table and then ordering the parties to meet on details before further court action.

Post by kevin_thibedeau » Tue, Sep 02, 2025, 10:49 PM UTC

stackskipton wrote: post #75

xnx wrote: post #59

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The ease with which a total newcomer was able to steal share from Google is real-world evidence that there wasn't really a monopoly and that Google competitors (Bing, etc.) just sucked and didn't want to spend the money to be better.

Well, courts disagree with your assessment and so do I. Yes, AI is a threat to Google. How much a threat remains to be seen. From normies I know, most of them are just using Gemini or whatever is on Google front page. They are not starting most of their searches on OpenAI or other ones.

Post by JustExAWS » Tue, Sep 02, 2025, 10:49 PM UTC

benoau wrote: post #182

crazygringo wrote: post #172

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You really think Microsoft , a company worth $3.8 trillion , doesn't have enough money to pay for placement?

Bing by itself reportedly doesn't even gross that much, overall $20 billion represents about a quarter of Microsoft's entire annual profit. Microsoft already decided it wasn't viable to spend that much to compete, and the rest of the search market (including AI) need not apply.

Post by crazygringo » Tue, Sep 02, 2025, 10:51 PM UTC

diamond559 wrote: post #125

motoxpro wrote: post #44

Thank goodness. Them spinning that out would have been a nightmare. Bad day to be Apple. Edit: I just checked the stock, I had no idea people priced in a split with that much certainty.

After hours moves can be dramatic, we'll see where it's at tomorrow w/ full volume. It's good news for sure but you can't tell me Wall Street actually thought they would be broken up or anything drastic.

Post by kevin_thibedeau » Tue, Sep 02, 2025, 10:51 PM UTC

richrichardsson wrote: post #148

judge2020 wrote: post #43

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I mean, it’s a legitimate concern. Google is bleeding so hard right now from Gen Z and especially Gen Alpha deciding to use ChatGPT first and foremost when asking questions that Google would’ve answered previously. Whether or not that means they should keep Chrome as a product is up for debate.

I'm Gen X and recently been using ChatGPT a hell of a lot more than Google, especially for queries similar to sibling comment. Instead of trying to word my query optimally for search, I just write what I'm trying to achieve in natural language and I get an answer, instead of having to scan a few results to know if they're likely candidates. Even with the made up shit on occasion this is a win.