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Re: Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts

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Post by Ray20 »

neoromantique wrote: post #71
xyzzy9563 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you know of any societies in the world that have a high quality of life but don’t have wealthy shareholders?

I know plenty with very low quality of life and very wealthy shareholders.

This is disgusting.

But I think this problem should be solved at the level of countries, not individuals.

Because individuals are always looking for a way to avoid taxes, they can disappear as a class, and there is not that much money if it is fairly redistributed among everyone.

In fairness, EVERY American should be taxed an additional 80-90% in favor of poorer countries. How can a country with a minimum wage of $10-20 an hour not share with other countries when billions of people make less than a dollar an hour?

Re: Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts

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Post by gpt5 »

supernova87a wrote: post #56

By the way, a pet peeve of mine right now is that reporters covering court cases (and we have so many of public interest lately) never seem to simply paste the link to the online PDF decision/ruling for us all to read, right in the story. (and another user here kindly did that for us below: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.223... ) It seems such a simple step (they must have been using the rul…

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Re: Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts

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Post by hardtke »

If I am reading this correctly, Google is now required to syndicate their search text ads to "Qualified Competitors." This is important as it will allow companies to monetize AI answers and other search replacements without needing to completely build a corresponding search ad marketplace. The search ad marketplace is a somewhat natural monopoly where the revenue per auction actually grows with the number of auctions so a second search ad marketplace could never develop on its own.

Re: Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts

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Post by jajuuka »

scarface_74 wrote: post #130
coliveira wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but even Apple testified Of course, Apple didn't want to lose its part in the ilegal scheme.

Bing - you know the search engine by the struggling Trillion dollar market cap company - is free to match Google’s offer.

Who needs it marketplace when you have two trillion dollar companies to pick from. Am I right?

Re: Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts

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Post by henryfjordan »

jfrbfbreudh wrote: post #12
stefan_ wrote: post #8

When the stock pops 10% on the announcement you got your antitrust enforcement wrong.

Or the stock price was suppressed pending antitrust decision?

That's exactly what the parent was saying. The market expected and priced in an antitrust decision but the one we got was very light, hence the stock going up sharply.

In the current era of already light antitrust actions, coming in even lighter than expectations is a sign that the regulators are not doing their jobs.

Re: Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts

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Post by [deleted] »

xyzzy9563 wrote: post #22
stefan_ wrote: post #17

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I don't understand. The court has ruled this already a year ago: > Google is a monopolist, and it has acted as one to maintain its monopoly What should be the effect of antitrust enforcement to a monopolists share price? We are looking at something structural after all.

Why should shareholders have to suffer just because the Google engineers were good at their job?

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Post by rafark »

IshKebab wrote: post #116
stackskipton wrote: post #30

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Feels like judge was looking for any excuse not to apply harsh penalty and since Google brought up AI as competitor, the judge accepted it as acceptable excuse for very minor penalty.

AI is a competitor. You know how StackOverflow is dead because AI provided an alternative? That's happening in search too. You might think "but ChatGPT isn't a search engine", and that's true. It can't handle all queries you might use a search engine for, e.g. if you want to find a particular website. But there are many many queries that it can handle. Here's just a few from my recent history: * How do I load a share…

Correct. I’ve been using ai chatbots more and more instead of google search (I still use google quite a lot but considerably less than a year or two ago).

...but ironically that chatbot is Gemini from ai studio, so still the same company but a different product. Google search will look very different in the next 5-10 years compared to the same period a decade ago.

Re: Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts

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Post by richrichardsson »

judge2020 wrote: post #43
stackskipton wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Feels like judge was looking for any excuse not to apply harsh penalty and since Google brought up AI as competitor, the judge accepted it as acceptable excuse for very minor penalty.

I mean, it’s a legitimate concern. Google is bleeding so hard right now from Gen Z and especially Gen Alpha deciding to use ChatGPT first and foremost when asking questions that Google would’ve answered previously. Whether or not that means they should keep Chrome as a product is up for debate.

I'm Gen X and recently been using ChatGPT a hell of a lot more than Google, especially for queries similar to sibling comment. Instead of trying to word my query optimally for search, I just write what I'm trying to achieve in natural language and I get an answer, instead of having to scan a few results to know if they're likely candidates. Even with the made up shit on occasion this is a win.

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Post by benoau »

scarface_74 wrote: post #130
coliveira wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but even Apple testified Of course, Apple didn't want to lose its part in the ilegal scheme.

Bing - you know the search engine by the struggling Trillion dollar market cap company - is free to match Google’s offer.

Except Google's offer is funded by their (court-ruled) advertising monopoly... which neither Bing nor all other competitors combined can compete with.

Re: Google can keep its Chrome browser but will be barred from exclusive contracts

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Post by supernova87a »

supernova87a wrote: post #56

By the way, a pet peeve of mine right now is that reporters covering court cases (and we have so many of public interest lately) never seem to simply paste the link to the online PDF decision/ruling for us all to read, right in the story. (and another user here kindly did that for us below: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.223... ) It seems such a simple step (they must have been using the rul…

By the way, the worst laughable offenders of this idea are local TV news stations. As if to get the real insight on some world issue, I'm going to "stay up to date by going to KTVU.com for the latest on this breaking story!".
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