A staff engineer's journey with Claude Code
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Re: A staff engineer's journey with Claude Code
#2I've come around on something like this. I start by putting a little effort into a prompt and into providing context, but not a ton - and see where Claude Code gets with it. It might even get what I asked for working in terms of features, but it's garbage code. This is a vibe session, not caring about the code at all, or hardly at all.
I notice what worked and what didn't, what was good and what was garbage -- and also how my own opinion of what should be done changed. I have Claude Code help me update the initial prompt, help me update what should have been in the initial context, maybe add some of the bits that looked good to the initial context as well, and then write it all to a file.
Then I revert everything else and start with a totally blank context, except that file. In this session I care about the code, I review it, I am vigilant to not let any slop through. I've been trying for the second session to be the one that's gonna work -- but I'm open to another round or two of this iteration.
Re: A staff engineer's journey with Claude Code
#3Preventing garbage just requires that you take into account the cognitive limits of the agent. For example ...
1) Don't ask for large / complex change. Ask for a plan but ask it to implement the plan in small steps and ask the model to test each step before starting the next.
2) For really complex steps, ask the model to write code to visualize the problem and solution.
3) If the model fails on a given step, ask it to add logging to the code, save the logs, run the tests and the review the logs to determine what went wrong. Do this repeatedly until the step works well.
4) Ask the model to look at your existing code and determine how it was designed to implement a task. Some times the model will put all of the changes in one file but your code has a cleaner design the model doesn't take into account.
I've seen other people blog about their tricks and tips. I do still see garbage results but not as high as 95%.
Re: A staff engineer's journey with Claude Code
#4Preventing garbage just requires that you take into account the cognitive limits of the agent. For example ... 1) Don't ask for large / complex change. Ask for a plan but ask it to implement the plan in small steps and ask the model to test each step before starting the next. 2) For really complex steps, ask the model to write code to visualize the problem and solution. 3) If the model fails on a given step, ask it t…
I've seen people post this same advice and I agree with you that it works but you would think they would absorb this common strategy and integrate it as part of the underlying product at this point...
Re: A staff engineer's journey with Claude Code
#5I've come around on something like this. I start by putting a little effort into a prompt and into providing context, but not a ton - and see where Claude Code gets with it. It might even get what I asked for working in terms of features, but it's garbage code. This is a vibe session, not caring about the code at all, or hardly at all. I notice what worked and what didn't, what was good and what was garbage -- and al…
and do you find this takes longer or shorter than just doing it yourself from scratch?
Re: A staff engineer's journey with Claude Code
#6Preventing garbage just requires that you take into account the cognitive limits of the agent. For example ... 1) Don't ask for large / complex change. Ask for a plan but ask it to implement the plan in small steps and ask the model to test each step before starting the next. 2) For really complex steps, ask the model to write code to visualize the problem and solution. 3) If the model fails on a given step, ask it t…
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Re: A staff engineer's journey with Claude Code
#7Preventing garbage just requires that you take into account the cognitive limits of the agent. For example ... 1) Don't ask for large / complex change. Ask for a plan but ask it to implement the plan in small steps and ask the model to test each step before starting the next. 2) For really complex steps, ask the model to write code to visualize the problem and solution. 3) If the model fails on a given step, ask it t…
I've seen people post this same advice and I agree with you that it works but you would think they would absorb this common strategy and integrate it as part of the underlying product at this point...
Claude Code at least now lets you use its best model for planning mode and its cheapest model for coding mode.
Re: A staff engineer's journey with Claude Code
#8I've come around on something like this. I start by putting a little effort into a prompt and into providing context, but not a ton - and see where Claude Code gets with it. It might even get what I asked for working in terms of features, but it's garbage code. This is a vibe session, not caring about the code at all, or hardly at all. I notice what worked and what didn't, what was good and what was garbage -- and al…
and do you find this takes longer or shorter than just doing it yourself from scratch?
Not OP, I don't care if it's the same amount of time because I can do it drunk/while doing other things. Not sure why how long does it take is the be all end all for some people.
Re: A staff engineer's journey with Claude Code
#9Preventing garbage just requires that you take into account the cognitive limits of the agent. For example ... 1) Don't ask for large / complex change. Ask for a plan but ask it to implement the plan in small steps and ask the model to test each step before starting the next. 2) For really complex steps, ask the model to write code to visualize the problem and solution. 3) If the model fails on a given step, ask it t…
I've seen people post this same advice and I agree with you that it works but you would think they would absorb this common strategy and integrate it as part of the underlying product at this point...
The people who build the models don't understand how to use the models. It's like asking people who design CPUs to build data-centers.
I've interviewed with three tier one AI labs and _no-one_ I talked to had any idea where the business value of their models came in.
Meanwhile Chinese labs are releasing open source models that do what you need. At this point I've build local agentic tools that are better than anything Claude and OAI have as paid offerings, including the $2,000 tier.
Of course they cost between a few dollars to a few hundred dollars per query so until hardware gets better they will stay happily behind corporate moats and be used by the people blessed to burn money like paper.
Re: A staff engineer's journey with Claude Code
#10Preventing garbage just requires that you take into account the cognitive limits of the agent. For example ... 1) Don't ask for large / complex change. Ask for a plan but ask it to implement the plan in small steps and ask the model to test each step before starting the next. 2) For really complex steps, ask the model to write code to visualize the problem and solution. 3) If the model fails on a given step, ask it t…
> Ask for a plan but ask it to implement the plan in small steps and ask the model to test each step before starting the next.
Tried this on a developer I worked with once and he just scoffed at me and pushed to prod on a Friday.