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I 100% agree. I've ran into the same issues, and I would never use Next.js for anything, and I will encourage every team at work to use something else. In general Next.js has so many layers of abstraction that 99.9999% of projects don't need. And the ones that do are probably better off building a bespoke solution from lower level parts. Next.js is easily the worst technology I've ever used.
Second worst for me. I’ve used Sharepoint.
I 100% agree. I've ran into the same issues, and I would never use Next.js for anything, and I will encourage every team at work to use something else. In general Next.js has so many layers of abstraction that 99.9999% of projects don't need. And the ones that do are probably better off building a bespoke solution from lower level parts. Next.js is easily the worst technology I've ever used.
My experience with Next.js are that its rough edges are a feature, not a bug. Everything is geared towards you giving up and just using Vercel's hosting
Open up vercel, point it at my repo, and environment variable, it starts building and… build error. I search up the strange error log on the next issues page, and find a single issue from 3 years ago with one upvote and no response or resolution.
So I threw it on a VPS and just built it with whatever the “prod build” command is, and it totally worked fine.
So in my limited anecdotal experience, hosting it on vercel won’t save you either lol
I think “middleware” is a bit of a misnomer in Next.js. It’s really an edge function that runs before your request hits the app -- quick header checks, routing, and other lightweight guards. It runs on the edge runtime, not on the app server. The post's author seems to conflate the edge runtime with the server runtime. They’re separate environments with different constraints and trade-offs. I struggled with Next.js a…
I 100% agree. I've ran into the same issues, and I would never use Next.js for anything, and I will encourage every team at work to use something else. In general Next.js has so many layers of abstraction that 99.9999% of projects don't need. And the ones that do are probably better off building a bespoke solution from lower level parts. Next.js is easily the worst technology I've ever used.
My experience with Next.js are that its rough edges are a feature, not a bug. Everything is geared towards you giving up and just using Vercel's hosting
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I have been frustrated with Next.js changing it's API so much in the last few years and making things more and more complex and confusing. I am wondering about giving Remix a whirl for an upcoming forum/CMS rewrite with custom auth. Anybody else have experiences with Remix?
If you don't like changing APIs I'd stay away from the Remix guys. I know it is not like Next but I've used react-router, which had some API churn, later evolved to remix and then back to react-router... Backward incompatible changes are the signature of it. The documentation story is a problem too because of that. Completely different things are named the same and they are now building a new Remix, not even on React…
FWIW, I've been doing webdev-related work for a living since 1998, and React since 2016.
Surely this can't be right?
https://nextjs.org/docs/messages/nested-middleware > If you have more than one Middleware, you should combine them into a single file and model their execution depending on the incoming request.
By Talos, this can't be happening.
Deno Fresh seems like it has the right approach. It’s not complicated, the docs are refreshingly simple, and it handles both server and client logic without getting confused. It’s just a shame it’s Deno-only (although I completely understand why)
I feel like Fresh being Deno only isn't the primary issue. It's based on Preact which is really just a non-starter for so many because it isolates away too much of the react ecosystem instantly.
I also don’t believe a React monoculture is good, so a growing Preact or Solid ecosystem would be really positive, alongside growing web/DOM standards to ultimately make these frameworks more of a light wrapper around some trivial updates.
React and Next.js, to me, have done the typical architecture astronaut thing, and it feels like they’ve both increased the barrier to entry and just made everything a little more complicated than it really needs to be for much of the web.
I 100% agree. I've ran into the same issues, and I would never use Next.js for anything, and I will encourage every team at work to use something else. In general Next.js has so many layers of abstraction that 99.9999% of projects don't need. And the ones that do are probably better off building a bespoke solution from lower level parts. Next.js is easily the worst technology I've ever used.
My experience with Next.js are that its rough edges are a feature, not a bug. Everything is geared towards you giving up and just using Vercel's hosting
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> It's their code that's slow and horrible, react is snappy as hell when you use it properly. That's the problem though, it's hilariously easy to shoot yourself in the foot with React. If almost every project makes the same common mistakes, it ceases being an issue with the people using it, it's a broader problem. With Vue or Svelte you'd have to try damned hard and go out of your way to mess up in similar ways, beca…
I don't know Vue so I can't compare. All I know is when I write react apps they're simple, nice and snappy. And I'm not even a frontend dev nor a JS dev, I mainly work backend. It's not that hard. In fact it's significantly harder to write a horrible mess. I have to spend ages cleaning up before I can start doing real work, because I can't deal with the horrible messes people make. This isn't just a react problem by…
I'd recommend giving it, and especially Svelte, a try, especially with Options API in Vue (but CompAPI is nice too). It's really clear early on how simple it is, despite it paradoxically having more to it than React does (like the event/prop system)