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Re: Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, George

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Post by Alex3917 » Mon, Jan 26, 2009, 4:23 AM UTC

andreyf wrote: post #69

Alex3917 wrote: post #66

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"In general, how easy could one make it for people to recommend products to each other, and split the commission between publisher, recommender, and facilitator?" That's exactly what Squidoo is designed for. It's especially designed for short pages that combine advice and information with product recommendations.

short pages [...] with product recommendations Not a separate page, but right here, in news.YC, on reddit, on twitter, on mailing threads, wherever.

If the recommender already has the ability to earn affiliate money without the platform taking a cut, why would the recommender want to give the platform a cut? With Squidoo it makes sense because they get more traffic than they would otherwise, but if I could just set up an Amazon affiliate account and use that to post a link onto news.yc, what do I stand to gain by giving YC a cut?

Re: Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, George

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Post by andrewljohnson » Mon, Jan 26, 2009, 4:30 AM UTC

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #25

World to George: System.out.println(GreetingsFactory.newInstance().createGreeting("Hello, George!")); George to World: (prn "Hello, World!")

Java :(

Re: Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, George

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Post by e1ven » Mon, Jan 26, 2009, 6:07 AM UTC

Alex3917 wrote: post #71

andreyf wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

short pages [...] with product recommendations Not a separate page, but right here, in news.YC, on reddit, on twitter, on mailing threads, wherever.

If the recommender already has the ability to earn affiliate money without the platform taking a cut, why would the recommender want to give the platform a cut? With Squidoo it makes sense because they get more traffic than they would otherwise, but if I could just set up an Amazon affiliate account and use that to post a link onto news.yc, what do I stand to gain by giving YC a cut?

Imagine if YC were to automatically load the links, and re-format them to use the YC referrer, and then add a button in your profile that allows you to request a check for your 1/2.

You don't need affiliate accounts with 15 different companies. The platform takes care of it for you, and cuts you a check. Think of it as a meta-affiliate.

Re: Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, George

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Post by andreyf » Mon, Jan 26, 2009, 11:25 AM UTC

Alex3917 wrote: post #71

andreyf wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

short pages [...] with product recommendations Not a separate page, but right here, in news.YC, on reddit, on twitter, on mailing threads, wherever.

If the recommender already has the ability to earn affiliate money without the platform taking a cut, why would the recommender want to give the platform a cut? With Squidoo it makes sense because they get more traffic than they would otherwise, but if I could just set up an Amazon affiliate account and use that to post a link onto news.yc, what do I stand to gain by giving YC a cut?

why would the recommender want to give the platform a cut?

Because setting up affiliate accounts and links is a pain in the ass. You gave Google a cut by not making it a direct link - a 100% cut... if there were an easy way of inserting a link straight to Amazon, you probably would have done it.

Also, platforms would be interested in providing more prominent placement for recommendations than they would other content. In other words, ads configurable by the website's users. Kind of like what Adpinion is doing, but instead of just voting on ads, you actually recommend relevant ads for the content.

I'm usually really cynical about my own ideas, but this one seems pretty solid... am I missing something?

Re: Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, George

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Post by sgrove » Mon, Jan 26, 2009, 3:57 PM UTC

For what it's worth, congratulations to the new parents. A joyous, if somewhat scary step.

Re: Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, George

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Post by fizx » Mon, Jan 26, 2009, 5:51 PM UTC

Off topic, but every time I see an ampersand and a semi-colon on the same line, I think mis-escaped HTML entity. Jessica?!?! That's not even close to an entity! Oh.... I see. Anyhow, congrats!

Re: Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, George

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Post by BeefingJection » Mon, Jan 26, 2009, 6:44 PM UTC

Eliezer wrote: post #13

Well, it's too late now, but if there are any other parents out there, for God's sake give your kid a globally unique name. It's all one big namespace now. There are other Eliezer Yudkowskys out there, the poor bastards, and they'll spend the rest of their lives under my ugly Google shadow.

Remember that a child's name should also be intention-revealing. "George" doesn't do much for you there. Consider some examples--

* Pat: one of the least intention-revealing names possible. The name is androgynous; can we assume the child is as well? Should we assume the child does not wish to buck the status quo (wishes to "stand pat")?

* George: doing better. It reveals the sex, at least. There is still the problem that it doesn't say much about what the child does.

* Paul Jr.: This is much clearer. The child's sex is clear, as well as its purpose: a lighter, faster implementation of the original Paul Graham (the original, of course, is kept around for reasons of backwards-compatibility).

To test a baby name: Imagine a second, very different baby. Will the name work for both babies?

Other examples of good baby names include mCarryOnTheFamilyName, fBiologicalImperativeToReproduce, and Buck.

Re: Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, George

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Post by LogicHoleFlaw » Mon, Jan 26, 2009, 7:41 PM UTC

prakash wrote: post #58

dfranke wrote: post #54

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If you're going to be creative with a kid's name, you should do it with the middle name. Then it can be up to him whether he wants to use it. My parents gave both my sister and I middle names of Fox, and when she started college my sister begin introducing herself by it.

interesting. maybe the middle name should be left blank and that person could fill it when he/she turns 18!

"Yes, that's John _____ Smith. Yes, five underscores. Yes, I know. Yes. Ok, thanks for getting that straightened out."

Re: Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, George

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Post by grosales » Mon, Jan 26, 2009, 8:40 PM UTC

All the best to you Paul, your wife, and your beautiful new baby!

show "Congratulations!"

Re: Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, George

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Post by prakash » Mon, Jan 26, 2009, 10:20 PM UTC

LogicHoleFlaw wrote: post #78

prakash wrote: post #58

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interesting. maybe the middle name should be left blank and that person could fill it when he/she turns 18!

"Yes, that's John _____ Smith. Yes, five underscores. Yes, I know. Yes. Ok, thanks for getting that straightened out."

thats funny..