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When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Post by lazide »

CorrectHorseBat wrote: post #36
lazide wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

‘Protect the people of hong Kong’? You mean follow the treaty they signed ages ago?

They could have done quite a lot to piss of the Chinese while still honoring the treaty. The lease was only for the New Territories, but they gave all of HK back. Or they could have tried to give it to the government in Taiwan. Whether that would have protected the people of Hong Kong is another matter. I think at the time people were still optimistic about the direction China was taking and they might have thought C…

If you think the UK gov’t was in any position to piss China off then (or now!) without it costing them and anyone else involved far more than it’s worth, I don’t know what to say.

It’s honestly amazing that China didn’t apply more ‘direct’ pressure to get HK bad sooner. There is nothing the UK likely would have done about it. Bad for business I guess? Macau transferred over around the same time.

The Qing dynasty ‘remnants’ in Taiwan would have just been steamrolled if they’d gone anywhere near it. And not like there was any real cultural reason why HK’ers would accept them anyway, or that the Qing were well loved. CCP steamrolled them in mainland China like they did because they were, by all accounts, terrible.

Sometimes, life just sucks.

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Post by tobylane »

lifeisstillgood wrote: post #112
Waterluvian wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be satisfyingly pedantic, my King isn’t the same King. Mine is the King of Canada. It just happens to be the same person as the King of England and the King of Australia ;)

Is that true? “”” Charles III, by the Grace of God, King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of His other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith. “”” So in my head canon, he is the King of the UK and Canada … the same person and the same office. Ie there is no King of Canada officially - the title is always King of UK (first) and of other places as well … i…

The other realms the British King has are the Crown dependencies, eg Isle of Man. Australia is the odd one out in naming the UK as one of the other realms. Your head canon was true, before the independence of the Commonwealth countries.

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Post by throawaywpg »

lifeisstillgood wrote: post #112
Waterluvian wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be satisfyingly pedantic, my King isn’t the same King. Mine is the King of Canada. It just happens to be the same person as the King of England and the King of Australia ;)

Is that true? “”” Charles III, by the Grace of God, King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of His other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith. “”” So in my head canon, he is the King of the UK and Canada … the same person and the same office. Ie there is no King of Canada officially - the title is always King of UK (first) and of other places as well … i…

Those are the titles bestowed upon him by the UK. But here is the full titles given to him by all entities (including Canada)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_titles_and_honours_of_...

In Masai he's known as "The Helper of the Cows" (literally: he whom the cows love so much they call for him when they are in times of distress)

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Post by throawaywpg »

bobsmooth wrote: post #84
ozim wrote: post #75

As an outsider I consider Canada and Australia - British Empire. Hard to think otherwise as they have the same king.

We do not have the same king. The King of Great Brittan is not the King of Canada, they just happen to be the same person. Is the US also part of the British Empire?

King Charles holds the title of King of Canada!

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Post by throawaywpg »

sys_64738 wrote: post #120
tonymet wrote: post #115

Though empires are out of fashion , British colonies universally benefited from the British empire. The ones who are thriving today owe a huge debt of gratitude, and the languishing ones are that way because they decided not to continue the British tradition. The 20th century decline of the British empire is one of civilization's worst failures, on par with the decline of the Roman Empire.

I remember asking this question to a work colleague from India almost 30 years ago. I asked something like if he hated the Brits for invading his land. He said on the contrary. They advanced their people so rapidly and efficiently through education and technical advances that would have taken hundreds of years by themselves. He said this allowed them to kick the British out once they had outlived their usefulness. Or…

Some Indians benefitted, but the vast majority suffered.

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Post by rschiavone »

noirscape wrote: post #116
hmartin wrote: post #109

But the real question... what will happen with .io TLD? (British Indian Ocean Territory's)

It should eventually get removed by ICANN, since the country code TLDs are managed by ISO 3166-1 alpha 2 (it's however not an exact match), and the transfer will mean the British Indian Ocean Territories will no longer exist. ISO is going to be the entity in charge of removing the io country code, which it probably will do since ISO 3166-1 alpha 2 isn't just used for domain names. There's a standardized process for t…

There is a lot of money to be made from the .io domain. My guess is that it will continue to exist as some kind of gTLD. Google already treats it like that.

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Post by bigfatkitten »

ozim wrote: post #75

As an outsider I consider Canada and Australia - British Empire. Hard to think otherwise as they have the same king.

The Australia Acts put an end to that in any practical sense for Australia in 1986.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_Act_1986

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Post by fakedang »

wolvesechoes wrote: post #140
capitainenemo wrote: post #82

Hm. I feel like the french republic can still make the claim though, at least according to this wikipedia map. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/Mapadefr...

It is always funny to ask people what country has the longest land border with France.

For those wondering, it's Brazil.

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Post by blibble »

ozim wrote: post #91
bobsmooth wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We do not have the same king. The King of Great Brittan is not the King of Canada, they just happen to be the same person. Is the US also part of the British Empire?

Obviously not as US does not have king in their legal system at all.

that's not what fox news says
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