Maybe a value to users if done correctly. The way it is right now, you can't teach the model anything. When it gets something wrong, it will probably get the same thing wrong again in another chat.
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#22Maybe a value to users if done correctly. The way it is right now, you can't teach the model anything. When it gets something wrong, it will probably get the same thing wrong again in another chat.
That's not how LLMs work.
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#23Am I the only one that assumed everything was already being used for training?
This. It's the same innocence of people who believe when you delete a document on Google/META/Apple/Microsoft servers, it "really" gets deleted. Google most likely has a backup of every piece of information indexed by them in the last 20 years or so. It would cause envy to the Internet Archive.
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#24I use AI to solve problems, not to check the weather or deciding what to wear. As such it makes sense for AI to remember when it hits the nail on the head.
Agreed. Typically I would be against something like this, but in this case, have it.
How do you feel about this data being used to target advertising at you in the inevitable rush to monetize these AI products?
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#25I’m fine with that.
you are fine with paying, 20, 90 or 200 euros a month AND having your data mined? i must be getting old...
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#26I can understand training AIs on books, and even internet forums, but I can't help but think that training an AI on lots of dumb questions with probably an excessive amount of grammar and spelling errors will somehow make it smarter.
They train AI on Reddit and Stack Overflow questions, I can't see it getting any worse.
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#27I can understand training AIs on books, and even internet forums, but I can't help but think that training an AI on lots of dumb questions with probably an excessive amount of grammar and spelling errors will somehow make it smarter.
Depends on how you’re using the data. There’s a pretty strong correctness signal in the user behavior. Did they rephrase the question? Probably the first answer was wrong. Did the session end? Good chance the answer was acceptable. Did they ask follow-ups? What kind? Etc.
> Did the session end? Good chance the answer was acceptable.
Or that the user just ragequit
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#28Am I the only one that assumed everything was already being used for training?
This. It's the same innocence of people who believe when you delete a document on Google/META/Apple/Microsoft servers, it "really" gets deleted. Google most likely has a backup of every piece of information indexed by them in the last 20 years or so. It would cause envy to the Internet Archive.
With the privacy laws out there, I do genuinely think they eventually get purged even from backups. I remember there being a really cool YouTube video shared here on HN that google no longer has publicly, it was about the process of an email and all the behind the scenes things, like physical security into a data center, to their patented hard drive shredders they use once the hard drives are to be tossed. I wish Google had kept that video public and online, it was a great watch.
I know once you delete something on Discord its poof, and that's the end of that. I've reported things that if anyone at Discord could access a copy of they would have called police. There's a lot of awful trolls on chat platforms that post awful things.
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#29"If you use Claude for Work, via the API, or other services under our Commercial Terms or other Agreements, then these changes don't apply to you."
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#30I kind of already assumed they were. I've got some pretty niche use-cases that I'd like to see the models get better at thinking their way through. I benefit from their training on my interactions. So I'll opt in.
But I'll also recognize that others might not feel that way, so the services should provide a way for users to opt out.