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Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by kossTKR »

croes wrote: post #83
kossTKR wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i don't see any setting related to this? just: Export data Shared chats Location metadata Review and update terms and conditions I'm in the EU, maybe that's helping me?

Have you clicked "Review and update terms and conditions"? It's part of the update

Oh i see thanks. That's a dark design pattern, hiding stuff like that.

No one cares about anything else but they have lots of superflous text and they are calling it "help us get better", blah blah, it's "help us earn more money and potentially sell or leak your extremely private info", so they are lying.

Considering cancelling my subscription right this moment.

I hope EU at leat considers banning or extreme-fining companies trying to retroactively use peoples extremely private data like this, it's completely over the line.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by sokoloff »

elzbardico wrote: post #61
echelon wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We should be able to train on foundation model outputs. These bastard companies pirated the world's data, then they train on our personal data. But they have the gall to say we can't save their model's inputs and outputs and distill their models.

I am pretty sure they try to do it all the time between themselves. Most of the real sauce in AI coding comes from reinforcement learning, usually done by armies of third world outsourced developers tediously doing all kinds of tasks with instructions to detail their reasoning behind each chance. Things like: "to run this python test in a docker container with the python image we need to install the python package xy…

> those developers are not well paid (usually around 30/40 USD hour, no benefits)

$40/hour for a full time would put you just over the median household income for the US.

I suspect this provides quite a good living for their family and the devs doing the work feel like they’re well-paid.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by monegator »

troad wrote: post #8

You can opt out, but the fact that it's opt-in by default and made to look like a simple T/C update prompt leaves a sour taste in my mouth. The five year retention period seems... excessive. I wonder if they've buried anything else objectionable in the new terms. It was the kick in the pants I needed to cancel my subscription.

I'm super duper sure that my data won't be stored and eventually used if i opt out

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #39
psychoslave wrote: post #28

What a surprise, a big corp collected large amount of personal data under some promises, and now reveals actually they will exploit it in completely unrelated manner.

The are valued at $170 Billion. Not quite the same as, but in same order of magnitude as OpenAI - while having only a single digit percent fraction of active users. They probably need to prepare for the eventual user data sellout, as it is becoming increasingly more obvious that none of the big players has a real and persistent tech leadership anymore. But millions and millions of users sharing their deepest thoughts…

The last time my brother and I were discussing about anthropic, they were worth 90B$, and that was a month ago, he asked chatgpt in the middle of the conversation, either it was a sneaky sabotage from gpt or my memory is fuzzy but I thought that 90b$ was really underrated for anthropic given the scaleAi deal or windsurf/cursor deals.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by sokoloff »

bayindirh wrote: post #87
sokoloff wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The government has the direct power to imprison me or seize my property if cross them. It seems strange to not be able to grasp the difference in kind here.

What happens if your Google account is locked out because you shared your son's pictures to his M.D. because of an ongoing treatment? What happens the same company locks all your book drafts because an algorithm deemed that you're plotting something against someone? Both are real events, BTW.

I think I missed the part where Google imprisoned someone.

The government forces me to do business with them; if I don't pay them tens (and others hundreds) of thousands of dollars every year they will send people with guns to imprison me and eventually other people with guns to seize my property.

Me willingly giving Google some data and them capriciously deciding to not always give it back doesn't seem anything like the same to me. (It doesn't mean I like what Google's doing, but they have nowhere near the power of the group that legally owns and uses tanks.)

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by Joker_vD »

troad wrote: post #8

You can opt out, but the fact that it's opt-in by default and made to look like a simple T/C update prompt leaves a sour taste in my mouth. The five year retention period seems... excessive. I wonder if they've buried anything else objectionable in the new terms. It was the kick in the pants I needed to cancel my subscription.

> You can opt out

You can say that you want to opt out. What Anthropic will decide to do with your declaration is a different question.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by senko »

wzdd wrote: post #68
troad wrote: post #8

You can opt out, but the fact that it's opt-in by default and made to look like a simple T/C update prompt leaves a sour taste in my mouth. The five year retention period seems... excessive. I wonder if they've buried anything else objectionable in the new terms. It was the kick in the pants I needed to cancel my subscription.

Everywhere else in Anthropic's interface, yes/no switches show blue when enabled and black when disabled. In the box they're showing about this change the slider shows grey in both states: visit it in preferences to see the difference! It's not just disappointing but also kind of sad that someone went to the effort to do this.

Just did and it behaves as expected for me in the Android app (ie. not the dark pattern you described)

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by smca »

ghusto wrote: post #86

What about paid corporate accounts? If I'm not paying for something, I presume this is the kind of thing that's happening, so this isn't newsworthy to me. Is it also applicable for paid and paid corporate accounts?

Does not apply to team/enterprise/education or the API.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by [deleted] »

troad wrote: post #8

You can opt out, but the fact that it's opt-in by default and made to look like a simple T/C update prompt leaves a sour taste in my mouth. The five year retention period seems... excessive. I wonder if they've buried anything else objectionable in the new terms. It was the kick in the pants I needed to cancel my subscription.

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