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App Academy is an intensive web development course in San Francisco

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Re: App Academy is an intensive web development course in San Francisco

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Ok, so you're competing directly with Dev Bootcamp ( http://devbootcamp.com ) by underpricing them. I'm reading the tuition section here: http://www.appacademy.io/description It looks like the student pays you 12.5% of their first year's salary. Normally wouldn't the hiring company pay? If I'm reading it right -- and I might not be -- how is that different than a student loan? Wouldn't that just be 12.5% off the top…

Is that a problem, underpricing the competition if the market bears it? Dev Bootcamp's cost has risen meteorically since they first opened their doors in February of this year. It is now roughly the same cost as a year's tuition at a UC. Apples to oranges, sure, but it gives the number some perspective. The difference in the pricing model here is that you don't have to pay it back should things go pear-shaped after t…

Nope, not a problem. It was meant as a statement of fact, not a judgement! :)

Re: App Academy is an intensive web development course in San Francisco

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post #5

Ok, so you're competing directly with Dev Bootcamp ( http://devbootcamp.com ) by underpricing them. I'm reading the tuition section here: http://www.appacademy.io/description It looks like the student pays you 12.5% of their first year's salary. Normally wouldn't the hiring company pay? If I'm reading it right -- and I might not be -- how is that different than a student loan? Wouldn't that just be 12.5% off the top…

Hey! Thanks for the interest! To my mind, we're not underpricing Dev Bootcamp. Our focus in pricing is to change the risk equation for students. We want to lower the barrier to entry for the tech jobs market. We also want students to know that we are really committed/invested in them. The big difference from student loans: students only pay us if the course actually works :-) Our first batch students are just beginni…

That's fair. But then why ask the student to pay, rather than the employer?

Re: App Academy is an intensive web development course in San Francisco

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Am a fan of this fee/tuition structure over Dev Bootcamp's and know a girl in the current class - She built a grocery shopping/calorie counting app that blew me away within 3 weeks of the course. No prior programming knowledge or experience.. was impressive.

Re: App Academy is an intensive web development course in San Francisco

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Google Cache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.app... I'm getting a domain parking page: Appacademy.io http://i.imgur.com/9MHjY.png

Thanks for the bug report; looking into it... Hmm; maybe an old DNS update? Seems to be working with everyone I checked with.

I get the parked domain too http://cl.ly/image/360p2Q0C0Y09

Re: App Academy is an intensive web development course in San Francisco

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This should have been an ASK HN question: But I am wondering how a curriculum like this could possible place a candidate into Apple, eBay, Twilio, or Box? I thought the interview process for those companies involve low-level, tough algorithm/data structure problems, which requires an intensive college education or participation in TopCoder, CoderChef... -- not just how many shiny toys you can play with (iOS, HTML, JS, CSS, ruby...)

It would be interesting to see statistics on those candidates being placed into those top companies

Please advise

Re: App Academy is an intensive web development course in San Francisco

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey! Thanks for the interest! To my mind, we're not underpricing Dev Bootcamp. Our focus in pricing is to change the risk equation for students. We want to lower the barrier to entry for the tech jobs market. We also want students to know that we are really committed/invested in them. The big difference from student loans: students only pay us if the course actually works :-) Our first batch students are just beginni…

That's fair. But then why ask the student to pay, rather than the employer?

Seems reasonable, you're paying for retraining into what should hopefully be a better career, in as low-risk a way as possible.

Re: App Academy is an intensive web development course in San Francisco

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey! Thanks for the interest! To my mind, we're not underpricing Dev Bootcamp. Our focus in pricing is to change the risk equation for students. We want to lower the barrier to entry for the tech jobs market. We also want students to know that we are really committed/invested in them. The big difference from student loans: students only pay us if the course actually works :-) Our first batch students are just beginni…

That's fair. But then why ask the student to pay, rather than the employer?

Why do you care so much that the student has to pay? And why insist that it's just a cheaper bootcamp? That plus the fact that your account was created an hour ago makes your negativity suspicious. Sorry if I'm wrong.

Re: App Academy is an intensive web development course in San Francisco

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post #7

Ok, so you're competing directly with Dev Bootcamp ( http://devbootcamp.com ) by underpricing them. I'm reading the tuition section here: http://www.appacademy.io/description It looks like the student pays you 12.5% of their first year's salary. Normally wouldn't the hiring company pay? If I'm reading it right -- and I might not be -- how is that different than a student loan? Wouldn't that just be 12.5% off the top…

Is that a problem, underpricing the competition if the market bears it? Dev Bootcamp's cost has risen meteorically since they first opened their doors in February of this year. It is now roughly the same cost as a year's tuition at a UC. Apples to oranges, sure, but it gives the number some perspective. The difference in the pricing model here is that you don't have to pay it back should things go pear-shaped after t…

Not only has Dev Bootcamp's cost risen, they're getting super selective about who they let in the program. The other huge issue would be for people who don't live in SF. On their website they say they work with the best recruiters in SF who are "waiting for you to graduate.". Yeah, so if I'm not from SF, then what are my odds of getting in? Probably slim to none.

Re: App Academy is an intensive web development course in San Francisco

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post #15

This should have been an ASK HN question: But I am wondering how a curriculum like this could possible place a candidate into Apple, eBay, Twilio, or Box? I thought the interview process for those companies involve low-level, tough algorithm/data structure problems, which requires an intensive college education or participation in TopCoder, CoderChef... -- not just how many shiny toys you can play with (iOS, HTML, JS…

Yeah, what does "partner recruiting companies" mean? Has anyone from App Academy received offers from any of them?

Re: App Academy is an intensive web development course in San Francisco

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's fair. But then why ask the student to pay, rather than the employer?

Why do you care so much that the student has to pay? And why insist that it's just a cheaper bootcamp? That plus the fact that your account was created an hour ago makes your negativity suspicious. Sorry if I'm wrong.

It's just unorthodox, is all. It also sets up a strange dynamic if a student can't or won't pay.

It would be even lower risk for the student if the hiring company paid, which is a standard practice -- referral fees as a percentage of the referral's first-year salary.

15%-20% is the standard.

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