first .net reflector, not this... They say web debugger will remain free, so will be able to see http traffic from that free version? What will offer paid version?
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Fiddler has joined the Telerik family
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#12That's good news. Fiddler is a great tool and now it will get greater.
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#13first .net reflector, not this... They say web debugger will remain free, so will be able to see http traffic from that free version? What will offer paid version?
If it's any consolation, Redgate were the ones that locked down reflector. In fact Telerik released their own free decompiler as a response to Redgate's actions (though I haven't used it - the commercial version of reflector is rather nice). Fiddler is a wonderous tool, yet in need of some UX enhancements, so I'm hopeful that this change proves fruitful for both the free tool and whatever Telerik ends up doing to mon…
Haven't used Telerik's decompiler, yet, but there are several other alternatives to Reflector: open source ILSpy and JetBrains dotPeek. Both are free, since I last checked.
The moment Telerik attempts to charge a penny for Fiddler, I'm betting you'll see alternatives spring up. Quickly.
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#15yesterday's news http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4500461
It bites when you're first but nobody notices.
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#16I'm surprised by the HN response -- from what Eric says, this is the first opportunity he'll have to work on Fiddler full-time. Surely that's a good thing? Even assuming Telerik will interfere with his work "a la Yahoo", he will still be able to dedicate more time to Fiddler than he'd have had in his old job.
It's not the a la yahoo, it's what happened to .Net Reflector. It left a bitter taste in many mouths. They address it directly on their blog though and repeatedly say they're not going to pull a redgate:
http://www.telerik.com/automated-testing-tools/blog/christop...
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#17yesterday's news http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4500461
Try using http://hnpickup.appspot.com/
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#18wow guys, why so negative? I firmly believe that Eric knows what he is doing and that telerik is going to keep the tool free and polished. And as someone said, if they make it paid an alternative will pop up in the matter of hours...
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#19I'm surprised by the HN response -- from what Eric says, this is the first opportunity he'll have to work on Fiddler full-time. Surely that's a good thing? Even assuming Telerik will interfere with his work "a la Yahoo", he will still be able to dedicate more time to Fiddler than he'd have had in his old job.
It's not the a la yahoo, it's what happened to .Net Reflector. It left a bitter taste in many mouths. They address it directly on their blog though and repeatedly say they're not going to pull a redgate: http://www.telerik.com/automated-testing-tools/blog/christop...
I was worried about Fiddler getting "redgated" too. Glad to see Telerik being very forward about not screwing the community. Between their free .NET MVC controls, the Kendo UI and that a few of their engineers put out top quality content via their blogs Telerik has always played nicely with the developer community. Good luck to Eric and Telerik.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it's any consolation, Redgate were the ones that locked down reflector. In fact Telerik released their own free decompiler as a response to Redgate's actions (though I haven't used it - the commercial version of reflector is rather nice). Fiddler is a wonderous tool, yet in need of some UX enhancements, so I'm hopeful that this change proves fruitful for both the free tool and whatever Telerik ends up doing to mon…
Haven't used Telerik's decompiler, yet, but there are several other alternatives to Reflector: open source ILSpy and JetBrains dotPeek. Both are free, since I last checked. The moment Telerik attempts to charge a penny for Fiddler, I'm betting you'll see alternatives spring up. Quickly.
Hopefully ones that support Linux. Fiddler is one of the few reasons to keep using a Windows VM.
There are existing alternatives, charles, burp etc but these all cost money and have an inferior UX.