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The cookie law is dead, you’re welcome
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Re: The cookie law is dead, you’re welcome
#32The maximum fine can add up to 450.000,- per violation . AND: By lay, if you add third-party plugins (analytics or social widgets) to your INTRANET you also need to comply to the cookie-law. How about that?
I am not sure how they could enforce it against an INTRANET at all.
Re: The cookie law is dead, you’re welcome
#33The maximum fine can add up to 450.000,- per violation . AND: By lay, if you add third-party plugins (analytics or social widgets) to your INTRANET you also need to comply to the cookie-law. How about that?
I am not sure how they could enforce it against an INTRANET at all.
I don't think they can either. But it's in the law. It's completely crazy.
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#34I do enjoy a self-propagandising and excessively hyperbolic headline. In principle the law has an honest objective to increase user awareness of cookies. I just don't understand all the developers on here jumping around at the outrageousness of the law when the ICO in the UK is obviously taking a relaxed approach to enforcement. Obviously the problem is that a law as drafted could be applied as drafted however I thin…
Increasing awareness of cookies is not very helpful. People don't give a rats heini about stuff like that. All it does is make things more confusing causing customers to drop off. And I still don't understand what is so bad about them being able to profile me. I want them to do that so I can get better ads / better communication in the future.
I think the problem is that you are aware of this profiling in the first place. Many are not. At least if they are informed, they can make a decision as to whether or not they care about it.
I don't know where I lie on the divide between those who value the input that targeted advertising can bring and those who are vehemently against any form of tracking. The problem I think is the uneducated majority in the middle. They may browse one site and then wonder why ads from that site or for a similar product are suddenly appearing. They have no awareness whatsoever that information about their browsing habits is being collected.
I personally think it is a more preferable situation to have an educated populace opting in to that form of collection of information than to have an uneducated one who has no comprehension that companies are engaging in this sort of behaviour.
I accept it is likely to be relatively harmless in many cases, but as I saw, I would rather than an informed opt-in or at least knowledge that this was taking place.
Re: The cookie law is dead, you’re welcome
#35Are you required to give the cookie notice if people log in to your site (and you only use cookie's after that point)?
Re: The cookie law is dead, you’re welcome
#36To all the people bashing the EU e-Privacy directive [1] (the "cookie law"): have you bothered read it all? If so, could you please pin-point which part of the directive you do not like? Which part are hard to implement? Can you also explain us (with the same verve used to bash the directive) how your national implementation is even worse than the EU-wide directive? The directive is quite short, definitely shorter th…
Welcome to the world of EU bashing. People usually never read anything that comes from Brussels, but love to complain about it. Unfortunately, that is especially true for British media.
Welcome to the world of $LARGE_ORGANIZATION bashing. People usually never read anything that comes from $LARGE_ORGANIZATION, but love to complain about it. Unfortunately, that is especially true for $EVERYONE.
(Sorry. Excessively-specific adjectives are a bit of a pet peeve of mine.)
Re: The cookie law is dead, you’re welcome
#37According to http://www.cookie-checker.com, the top 3 uses 65 to 85 cookies(!) Law or no law, I still think this is quite heavy in the light of privacy.
Re: The cookie law is dead, you’re welcome
#38I do enjoy a self-propagandising and excessively hyperbolic headline. In principle the law has an honest objective to increase user awareness of cookies. I just don't understand all the developers on here jumping around at the outrageousness of the law when the ICO in the UK is obviously taking a relaxed approach to enforcement. Obviously the problem is that a law as drafted could be applied as drafted however I thin…
taking a relaxed approach to enforcement. Whenever a group largely objects to a law, it seems that some of the group will say something like "Well, at least they're not enforcing it", or "Well, at least prosecutors have discretion on bringing charges", as though this is better, when in fact lax enforcement is worse. If people are not in immediate danger from a law, no matter how bad it is, they will be less inclined…
You are right - the risk is of course that with a bad law on the books, the enforcement strategy could change at any moment.
Re: The cookie law is dead, you’re welcome
#39To all the people bashing the EU e-Privacy directive [1] (the "cookie law"): have you bothered read it all? If so, could you please pin-point which part of the directive you do not like? Which part are hard to implement? Can you also explain us (with the same verve used to bash the directive) how your national implementation is even worse than the EU-wide directive? The directive is quite short, definitely shorter th…
That part where half the websites I use started giving me popups asking if I accept cookies before I could use the site was the part that I did not like.
Re: The cookie law is dead, you’re welcome
#40I do enjoy a self-propagandising and excessively hyperbolic headline. In principle the law has an honest objective to increase user awareness of cookies. I just don't understand all the developers on here jumping around at the outrageousness of the law when the ICO in the UK is obviously taking a relaxed approach to enforcement. Obviously the problem is that a law as drafted could be applied as drafted however I thin…
Increasing awareness of cookies is not very helpful. People don't give a rats heini about stuff like that. All it does is make things more confusing causing customers to drop off. And I still don't understand what is so bad about them being able to profile me. I want them to do that so I can get better ads / better communication in the future.
>All it does is make things more confusing causing customers to drop off.
So what you're saying, is that it becomes more expensive to use cookies for bullshit like user profiling and you have to think about whether or not they're goddamn necessary for your website?
Sounds like the law is working correctly then.