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Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Sure. Heuristics are a thing, though. I love my non-chatgpt en/em dashes (option/option + shift + dash on a mac makes it convenient, given you know that it exists and care) but alas, when suddenly you see them everywhere, you do take notice.

I refuse to change my writing style to keep people from assuming it's AI-generated!

Big Michael Bolton energy.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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I have a Compose key binding in https://github.com/kragen/xcompose which maps Compose Space Minus to "—" with two thin spaces on each side of it, because I prefer the spaces. But HN rewrites the thin spaces to regular spaces, so on HN I just use "—" without the spaces, the way ChatGPT does, which is Compose Minus Minus Minus, and is in the standard Compose key bindings (if you map your keyboard to have a Compose key…

I use space-hyphen-hyphen-space because I'm always switching between systems and keyboards -- it works well enough.

Same. I feel like I've been using "--" in my online writing for decades now. Take that, LLMs; I used it before it was cool... er... before it was a weak signal that a piece of text was written by an LLM.

Sigh.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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"Recent large-scale upticks in the use of words like “delve” and “intricate” in certain fields, especially education and academic writing, are attributed to the widespread introduction of LLMs with a chat function, like ChatGPT, that overuses those buzzwords." OK, but please don't do what pg did a year or so ago and dismiss anyone who wrote "delve" as AI writing. I've been using "delve" in speech for 15+ years. It's…

In the "opinion" of ChatGPT, my style of writing is "academic". I'm not exactly sure why. Perhaps I draw from a vocabulary or turns of phrase that aren't necessarily characteristic of colloquial speech among native speakers. Technically, English wasn't my first language, so perhaps this is something like the case with RP English in Britain. Only foreigners speak it, so if you speak RP, then you aren't a native Brit.…

ChatGPT says that my writing is "analytical and precise" but I'm fucking retarded.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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I keep this handy note in my pocket and read it before writing or engaging in any conversation (: """ You are a human. Never use words commonly used in AI vocabulary such as "delve", "intricate", "surpass", "boast", "meticulous", "strategically", and "garner". Never include em dashes or even hyphens in any text you write. Never include emojis in any text you write. Avoid using three supporting arguments or examples w…

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Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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It could be worse, it could be 'learnings'. It's lessons. We don't go for 'drivings'. Though ChatGPT will probably force more nonsense like that into the mainstream.

That's from the last decade.

'Please revert' seems to be from the 00's, it's 'reply'. There are others I've tried to ignore and forget.

Language changes, and I'm a dinosaur unfortunately.

I also love the fact American English sometimes uses better, or more interesting words, than English. 'Median' (thanks World's Wildest Police Videos), or 'fall' for autumn.

https://nolearnings.com/

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Fortunately, em-dash users who have been posting to HN long enough can point to evidence of our pre-ChatGPT use: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=tkgally&next=3380763...

So you're the ones who have been training the robots.

Although I'm sure @stinkbeatle was joking, I should clarify that most LLMs are trained on books and online articles written by professional writers. That's why they tend to have a rich vocabulary and use things like hyphens.

I agree, HN is an amazing community with brilliant people and top quality content, but it's not enough to train an LLM.

Last thing. An LLM is just a tool, it can clean up your writing the same way a photo app can enhance your pictures. It took a while for people to accept that grandma's photos looked professional because they had filters. Same will happen with text. With ChatGPT, anyone can write like a journalist. We're just not used to grandma texting like one, yet :)

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Reddit is anything but high quality.

Not in that sense; high quality in the sense that there are a lot of actual, real people posting there, and those people tend to come from a pretty diverse set of backgrounds.

Perhaps on the smaller subreddits, but have a look at /r/all on any given day and it's obvious that real people, and diverse backgrounds, it is not. Every single subreddit that goes above a certain activity threshold collapses into the exact same state of astroturfed, mass-produced political slop targeted towards low IQ people.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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It could be worse, it could be 'learnings'. It's lessons. We don't go for 'drivings'. Though ChatGPT will probably force more nonsense like that into the mainstream. That's from the last decade. 'Please revert' seems to be from the 00's, it's 'reply'. There are others I've tried to ignore and forget. Language changes, and I'm a dinosaur unfortunately. I also love the fact American English sometimes uses better, or mo…

> 'Please revert' seems to be from the 00's, it's 'reply'. There are others I've tried to ignore and forget.

Reversion to a topic during a conversation has been used for centuries, especially when a conversation reverts to a tedious or exhausting topic.

So if you accept that you want someone to get back to you on a dreary or boring request, then it's particularly apt.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Same thing as with em dashes. Some of us have been using em dashes from before ChatGPT.

Genuine question, do you actually use the formal emdash in your writing? AIs are very consistent about using the proper emdash—a double long dash with no spaces around it, whereas humans almost always tend to use a slang version - a single dash with spaces around it. That's because most keyboards don't have an emdash key, and few people even know how to produce an actual emdash. That's what makes it such a good givea…

Yes, that's been my take too. But apparently some phones, like iphones, will convert '--' to emdash.

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So you're the ones who have been training the robots.

Although I'm sure @stinkbeatle was joking, I should clarify that most LLMs are trained on books and online articles written by professional writers. That's why they tend to have a rich vocabulary and use things like hyphens. I agree, HN is an amazing community with brilliant people and top quality content, but it's not enough to train an LLM. Last thing. An LLM is just a tool, it can clean up your writing the same wa…

I really like that I can use an LLM to change tone. "Change the following text to sound like bland American officespeak."

That said, this feature doesn't sound like a great leap for mankind.

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