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Bring Your Own Agent to Zed – Featuring Gemini CLI

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Re: Bring Your Own Agent to Zed – Featuring Gemini CLI

#12

Honest question - why use Zed, other than it is fast and “not VS Code”?

I use it as a notepad mostly, just because vscode is for the actual repo and sublime would nag me with the trial/purchase thing.

It might sound silly but it helps me to have one use per app (even better if each is clearly identifiable by their theme).

Re: Bring Your Own Agent to Zed – Featuring Gemini CLI

#13

Honest question - why use Zed, other than it is fast and “not VS Code”?

It's very 'batteries-included', for one thing - when a novice wants to code, I recommend them Zed because it'll just handle and manage LSPs for them for a variety of languages. Meanwhile with VSCode step 1 of installing and using it for e.g. Rust is to go and install a random extension (and the VSCode store, whilst sorted by popularity, can be intimidating / confusing for a novice, who might install a random/scammy extension). The 'recommended extensions' thing helps, but it's still subpar.

It has some other niceties – I love how if you Cmd+Shift+F to search across the project, that you get a multi-buffer [1] - I often use that for larger manual refactors for a ton of places in my codebase.

But honestly... as others have said, speed is just _such_ a strong feature for my taste - it makes a world of difference compared to VSCode, because in VSC I'll be typing vim commands, the editor will fail to keep up and it'll do the wrong thing - whereas in Zed it's fast enough that I never really run into stalls.

[1]: https://zed.dev/features#multi-buffers

Re: Bring Your Own Agent to Zed – Featuring Gemini CLI

#16
To me this (coupled with their DeltaDB announcement[0]) feels like Zed trying to get out of the business that Cursor is in, and maybe even kicking them on the way out, if the protocol helps bring-your-own-agent take off. These agent tools are already not particularly sticky, especially when they are outside the editor. I don't use Cursor or Zed full time, but I have heard that the most compelling bit is the tab completion, which isn't even part of the agent stuff. I'm sure it's nice, but it's very hard to imagine that being a moat for an editor.

I think I agree with the implicit judgment from the Zed team that it's too early to try to lock people in and capture value, and the best way to build long-term user loyalty is to just be the best editor and let people work however they want to work. On top of that, it is not a great use of their dev time to iterate on the details of an agentic coding tool when there are 10 other ones doing the same thing, and any prompting secret sauce a) is trivial to copy, and b) gets eaten by the next model generation anyway.

I don't really understand what Cursor's business model is supposed to be long term -- at least Zed is trying to come up with new things that an editor can be (see their chat ideas and now source control). On the other hand, I also don't buy the argument some have made that Cursor and friends were banking on the marginal cost of inference going to zero, keeping prices at $20 a month, and pocketing the difference. It seems obvious (even a year ago, but moreso now) that in that situation, the IDEs also compete down to zero. If anything, higher total inference spend has to be better for them: more to skim off of. If you're already spending $50 a month on LLM tooling, Cursor doesn't have to be that big of a value-add to get you to pay them $52 instead.

[0]: https://zed.dev/blog/sequoia-backs-zed#introducing-deltadb-o...

Re: Bring Your Own Agent to Zed – Featuring Gemini CLI

#18

Honest question - why use Zed, other than it is fast and “not VS Code”?

The vim emulation is very good.

Seconding this, it's the only editor other than emacs that has a vim-mode that feels like it's maintained by a long term vim user.

Re: Bring Your Own Agent to Zed – Featuring Gemini CLI

#19
For anyone using Zed, how extensive is its ability to be configured/modded to emulate other editor behaviors, bindings, etc? Eg i want something akin to Helix, but i'm not interested in Zeds Vim mode. Nor am i interested in a straight Helix mode, as my own Helix usage is quite customized.

Can i make my own Modes trees like Helix/etc offers? I'm aware of https://zed.dev/docs/helix, just not sure what the UX is to customize this behavior yourself as a user.

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