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F-35 pilot held 50-minute airborne conference call with engineers before crash

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Re: F-35 pilot held 50-minute airborne conference call with engineers before crash

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Post by yobbo »

grumpy-de-sre wrote: post #36
4gotunameagain wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hydraulic brake fluid is glycol ether based and hygroscopic. Planes usually use mineral based fluids which are not, but heck if I know what the F-35 uses.

Quoting ChatGPT (and after a quick sanity check), The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter uses a specialized hydraulic fluid that’s based on a synthetic ester formulation, not a petroleum-based fluid. Specifically, it uses phosphate ester–based fire-resistant hydraulic fluid (commonly in the MIL-PRF-83282 or newer MIL-PRF-87257 class). Apparently the older phosphate-ester based hydraulic fluids were hygroscopic but I'm not sur…

Sounds similar to DOT-5 brake fluid.

Maybe this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tributyl_phosphate

"The major uses of TBP in industry are as a component of aircraft hydraulic fluid, brake fluid, and as a solvent for extraction and purification of rare-earth metals from their ores"

It might be better if it is hygroscopic as the water won't separate and risk forming ice plugs in the hydraulic lines.

Re: F-35 pilot held 50-minute airborne conference call with engineers before crash

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Post by gherkinnn »

luma wrote: post #34
gherkinnn wrote: post #23

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That is a patently absurd take, ask Iran how much of a shitshow it is to be on the receiving end of planes your AA can't see.

The B2 is what did the damage in Iran. F22 and F35 were reportedly sent to protect the bombers.

I don't see how that detracts from the point that the F35 has been fraught with problems and operating it is dependent on an unreliably ally.

Re: F-35 pilot held 50-minute airborne conference call with engineers before crash

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Post by hollerith »

gherkinnn wrote: post #52
luma wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is a patently absurd take, ask Iran how much of a shitshow it is to be on the receiving end of planes your AA can't see.

The B2 is what did the damage in Iran. F22 and F35 were reportedly sent to protect the bombers. I don't see how that detracts from the point that the F35 has been fraught with problems and operating it is dependent on an unreliably ally.

Israel has no B2s. Israeli F35s flew constantly over Western and Central Iran (including Tehran) for 12 days as if Iran's extensive air-defense network was not even there, doing a lot of damage.

Russian milbloggers responded with, "Why can't the Russian air force fly over Ukraine like that?"

Re: F-35 pilot held 50-minute airborne conference call with engineers before crash

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Post by cwmoore »

grumpy-de-sre wrote: post #36
4gotunameagain wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hydraulic brake fluid is glycol ether based and hygroscopic. Planes usually use mineral based fluids which are not, but heck if I know what the F-35 uses.

Quoting ChatGPT (and after a quick sanity check), The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter uses a specialized hydraulic fluid that’s based on a synthetic ester formulation, not a petroleum-based fluid. Specifically, it uses phosphate ester–based fire-resistant hydraulic fluid (commonly in the MIL-PRF-83282 or newer MIL-PRF-87257 class). Apparently the older phosphate-ester based hydraulic fluids were hygroscopic but I'm not sur…

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Re: F-35 pilot held 50-minute airborne conference call with engineers before crash

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Post by m000 »

mbirth wrote: post #12
m000 wrote: post #8

This is wild. You can't get away from these zoom calls even as an F-35 pilot.

I bet, once the gear malfunctioned, Clippy popped up on the screen and suggested to call support.

At least it wasn't Bonzi Buddy telling jokes to lighten up the mood.

Re: F-35 pilot held 50-minute airborne conference call with engineers before crash

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Post by owebmaster »

greenavocado wrote: post #45
rokkamokka wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A scary proposition considering what the US is rapidly becoming

Purchasing F35s is paying tribute to the empire so it doesn't come down on you harder with tariffs and compliance burdens. It's not meant to actually be useful.

It still did not work, tho.

Re: F-35 pilot held 50-minute airborne conference call with engineers before crash

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Post by orwin »

sschueller wrote: post #38

Switzerland, if they want something they can fly for air policing is forced to buy the F35 at what every price the US feels fit (even though the contract with Lockheed states a fixed price, naive politicians and consultants found out the hard way). Of course the CHF to USD conversion is fix at a shit rate from many years ago and from what I understand there is no way around that because the SNB did the conversion bac…

With such a terrain, I would guess that agility and the ability to land on highway of in fields without burning all avionics and electronics would have been rated higher than stealth, but it wasn't. Still, the Swiss were offered a fairly low price, and promised low operating costs, and that's the main reason they didn't choose the Eurofighter (which isn't a multi-purpose jet but an interceptor)
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