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Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end

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Re: Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end

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May I ask something, I want an apple silicone MacBook Air and I am probably just be running Linux on it, what are pros and cons of getting an m1 vs m2? Except for more ram or so. Thx

The short answer is that it's just a stupid idea (and a waste of money). Asahi only works somewhat ok on M1.

Agreed, it is not that stable/usable. I tested it on M1 Pro and was hopeful, but after some years I realized it is not viable for daily use. Many things still don't work and I doubt that they will any time soon. Last year I was given M4 Pro at work and it is not supported at all.

Looking at the drama and people stepping down, I don't think MacBooks will be properly supported on Linux in this decade.

Re: Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end

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I never understood this project. Maybe I'm missing something, but the timescale is such that by the time they're done the product isn't even being sold anymore At least with Panfrost it made more sense bc it still being used M1 chip laptops can only be bought second hand at this point

When the next gen chip comes out you can usually reuse large amount of stuff.

Re: Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end

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I'm curious, why are not these people hit with C&D from Apple? And other great projects, like Corellium (Actual iOS VM, not that crap Apple makes) are hit hard with lawsuits etc. (You know, great project for these people who is still RE iOS for 0days and report them to Apple, which is behind me long time ago, reporting 0days for peanuts, yeah right :) )

I remember apple even made some change that asahi devs were really happy and said "this is for us" (marcan's tweet iirc)

Re: Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end

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There isn't really anything left to do for her - everything missing (including work on the newer graphics chips) can be somewhat easily done by less talented people, building on her work. She did the challenging stuff she cares about. One aspect of nerd brain often is that you can hyperfocus on challenging stuff, but can't get the motivation to work on stuff you don't care about - and even what would be a 20 minute t…

Sounds like ADD to me. Easy to be labeled as "Lazy" etc.

ADD is an old term -> ADHD. Nvm.

I wouldn't be so quick to judge someone for ADHD.

Because I have it, untreated. And I couldn't even finish university because of it. I'm unable to do certain things, like at all, I'm nearly physically ill when doing these things. Hard to explain it, to someone without these problems :)

Luckily enough, it's not that important here / Idc about money, career etc.

Re: Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end

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What an end to an era. It's crazy to think she started this journey at 18 and now finished 5 years later. Not many people believed they would be able to make the GPU work in Asahi linux. Kinda curious what her "Onto the next challenge!" link means. Is she working for Intel Xe-HPG next?

From "draw a triangle" to upstream Vulkan on M1. Practically, this makes the Venus/virtio path viable for guests on Apple Silicon (no passthrough in VZ), which is what many people actually need.

Re: Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end

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post #97

I'm curious, why are not these people hit with C&D from Apple? And other great projects, like Corellium (Actual iOS VM, not that crap Apple makes) are hit hard with lawsuits etc. (You know, great project for these people who is still RE iOS for 0days and report them to Apple, which is behind me long time ago, reporting 0days for peanuts, yeah right :) )

Corellium being a commercial product (and thus a company you can sue) probably made it easier.

Re: Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end

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Yes I think so. Her resume says she started working for Intel on open source graphics driver this month.

Good luck to her. That's one of the pieces of Intel I think will survive its slow motion implosion.

I just hope that Intel doesn't squander the talent like they did with Jim Keller.

Re: Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end

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Yes I think so. Her resume says she started working for Intel on open source graphics driver this month.

Too bad it was not Apple who hired her for M4, but in business leaders are always the most closed ones.

Honestly if Apple had embraced Linux, the Apple Silicon CPUs would have been amazing for all sorts of server, scientific, and AI/LLM work. Too bad they are clamping down on the walled garden to focus on consumer toys instead.

Re: Dissecting the Apple M1 GPU, the end

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Too bad it was not Apple who hired her for M4, but in business leaders are always the most closed ones.

Honestly if Apple had embraced Linux, the Apple Silicon CPUs would have been amazing for all sorts of server, scientific, and AI/LLM work. Too bad they are clamping down on the walled garden to focus on consumer toys instead.

> Honestly if Apple had embraced Linux, the Apple Silicon CPUs would have been amazing for all sorts of server, scientific, and AI/LLM work.

You can already do this work on M1/M2 using Asahi. A compute server doesn't need fully working peripherals and external displays.

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