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China's Guowang megaconstellation is more than another version of Starlink

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Re: China's Guowang megaconstellation is more than another version of Starlink

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I guess my children will never see the night sky without tens of satellites flying through it. Irrespective of who wins the space war, I’m sad about that.

And the ads haven’t even showed up in the night sky yet!

It’s going to be much sadder once we start seeing McDonald’s ads wherever and whenever we look up.

Re: China's Guowang megaconstellation is more than another version of Starlink

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I guess my children will never see the night sky without tens of satellites flying through it. Irrespective of who wins the space war, I’m sad about that.

I'm sad my grandparents never got to see the sky without a bunch of satellites flying through it. Even more sad they never experienced the benefits.

Re: China's Guowang megaconstellation is more than another version of Starlink

#14

USA really beefed it by throwing out the spirit of the space weapons treaty with starlink. Everyone knows its a dual use military technology.

This doesn't make sense, the treaty never applied to military communication satellites. Unless you claim that the dual purpose of starlink is to fall on earth at the right moment.

Re: China's Guowang megaconstellation is more than another version of Starlink

#15

The big problem is debris. These higher satellites will take hundreds of years to fall out of orbit if they end up malfunctioning.

There are a couple dozens of companies trying to do space cleaning. Let's see if some can succeed.

Re: China's Guowang megaconstellation is more than another version of Starlink

#16

USA really beefed it by throwing out the spirit of the space weapons treaty with starlink. Everyone knows its a dual use military technology.

This doesn't make sense, the treaty never applied to military communication satellites. Unless you claim that the dual purpose of starlink is to fall on earth at the right moment.

They can also be used as interceptors for ICBMs just like brilliant pebbles.

Re: China's Guowang megaconstellation is more than another version of Starlink

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post #4

I guess my children will never see the night sky without tens of satellites flying through it. Irrespective of who wins the space war, I’m sad about that.

Your children will fly to space and see the sky above the satellites, how about that?

Re: China's Guowang megaconstellation is more than another version of Starlink

#18

The big problem is debris. These higher satellites will take hundreds of years to fall out of orbit if they end up malfunctioning.

> The big problem is debris. These higher satellites will take hundreds of years to fall out of orbit if they end up malfunctioning.

Malfunctioning is a risk, but if they are the backbone of a rival military power then this means they are also a high-value target. If the world enters a major conflict, there will be a huge volume of space debris for sure.

Re: China's Guowang megaconstellation is more than another version of Starlink

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This doesn't make sense, the treaty never applied to military communication satellites. Unless you claim that the dual purpose of starlink is to fall on earth at the right moment.

They can also be used as interceptors for ICBMs just like brilliant pebbles.

I think that would require a lot of delta-v, the space is very big even for tens of thousands of satellites.

But even if true this doesn't really count as dual use military technology that "everyone knows" about. Everyone knows about the communications part.

Re: China's Guowang megaconstellation is more than another version of Starlink

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can also be used as interceptors for ICBMs just like brilliant pebbles.

I think that would require a lot of delta-v, the space is very big even for tens of thousands of satellites. But even if true this doesn't really count as dual use military technology that "everyone knows" about. Everyone knows about the communications part.

True, I should've been more specific. I just happened to know that China considers it a threat due to this paper put out by the CSIS thinktank.

https://interpret.csis.org/translations/starlink-militarizat...

Maybe I should submit it as an article.

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