macOS dotfiles should not go in –/Library/Application Support

Post by notachatbot123 » Tue, Aug 26, 2025, 2:42 PM UTC

bowsamic wrote: post #155

notachatbot123 wrote: post #87

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Imagine having built some software, abiding to a standard that to your understanding is the standard to abide to. Then comes people who ask you to break that standard and change your software. Again and again they come. Others ridicule your stance on social media and forums like these. It's burning out. It's free and open-source for heaven's sake! If you don't like it, fork it, patch it, make your own custom version.…

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to be demanding when this refusal negatively affects a lot of other rust software

Post by homebrewer » Tue, Aug 26, 2025, 2:45 PM UTC

delta_p_delta_x wrote: post #139

smcleod wrote: post #132

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Had a chuckle at "classic Linux-first development", it's every OS except Windows - Windows is the outlier here, and I know plenty of engineers (myself included) which have no interest in trying to make things work in the Windows ecosystem. So I guess in the same way that roads are "classic wheel-first infrastructure", you don't try to pave a swamp.

> Windows is the outlier here What about Android? The only thing Android shares with Linux is the kernel; the entire user mode environment is completely different, and this includes how 'users' and their data are handled. What about automotive stuff like VxWorks? > I know plenty of engineers (myself included) which have no interest in trying to make things work in the Windows ecosystem. Good for you; then why even bo…

Post by adastra22 » Tue, Aug 26, 2025, 2:48 PM UTC

hulitu wrote: post #150

ndegruchy wrote: post #120

I disagree with this. macOS isn't Linux, and as much as I _absolutely support_ the XDG BaseDir spec, I don't think it's fair to try and apply it to macOS. Linux has no 'proper' directory for storing configuration, cache and application user data. macOS and Windows _do_. It's only proper to support those systems in the way that they intend. I wouldn't put stuff in to `%HOME%\.config` on Windows any more than I would p…

> Linux has no 'proper' directory for storing configuration, /etc ? > cache /var/cache, /var/tmp ? > and application user data. /var ?

Post by adastra22 » Tue, Aug 26, 2025, 2:54 PM UTC

CGamesPlay wrote: post #7

orlp wrote: post #3

I and others have brought this up with the dirs Rust crate maintainer but they refuse to see it this way: https://codeberg.org/dirs/dirs-rs/issues/64 . It's very frustrating. I now use a combination of xdg + known-folders manually: [target.'cfg(windows)'.dependencies] known-folders = "1.2.0" [target.'cfg(not(windows))'.dependencies] xdg = "2.5.2" to get the config directory: use anyhow::{Context, Result}; #[cfg(windo…

I think there should be two crates in rust-land. The answer by @soc makes sense for apps , as the article discusses. Many (most?) people building Rust programs aren't making apps and so shouldn't be using this crate, which clearly and definitively only supports MacOS "Apps".

Post by adastra22 » Tue, Aug 26, 2025, 2:58 PM UTC

cmurf wrote: post #169

adastra22 wrote: post #166

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Those aren’t writable for users.

~/.var is writable for users, which leads to ~/.var/app/$APP/cache per app.