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Re: The MiniPC Revolution

#61

Post by micromacrofoot »

ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #37
micromacrofoot wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's the landlord's responsibility, you're a sucker if you pay a dime to fix what they own... especially considering the unfamiliarity with previous work and safety risks involved

yeah agreed that tenants should buy smart appliances to replace non-functioning fixtures instead!

no, the landlord should fix their property in a timely manner or they should sell it to someone that will

a $20 lamp you get to keep is smarter and safer than fixing someone else's property doing unlicensed electrical work at your own cost and without their permission... why does this even have to be explained?

Re: The MiniPC Revolution

#62

Post by kjkjadksj »

giardini wrote: post #52
ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Learn how to change a lightbulb? Is that a handyman level skill?

Sadly yes, b/c even the simplest things can go wrong quickly. E.g. people sometimes change light bulbs w/o turning off the power. Have you ever experienced a dead (or good, for that matter) bulb coming apart as you twist it out of the socket? Would you trust a naive person to properly handle that situation? With power off(easy case)? With power on(difficult)?

If they can set up a light with home assistant they can screw in a lightbulb. Come on.

Re: The MiniPC Revolution

#64

Post by justsomehnguy »

giardini wrote: post #52
ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Learn how to change a lightbulb? Is that a handyman level skill?

Sadly yes, b/c even the simplest things can go wrong quickly. E.g. people sometimes change light bulbs w/o turning off the power. Have you ever experienced a dead (or good, for that matter) bulb coming apart as you twist it out of the socket? Would you trust a naive person to properly handle that situation? With power off(easy case)? With power on(difficult)?

You are conflating naive and a barely functional human being.

If someone doesn't know what the electricity zaps and couldn't think two steps ahead then they definitely should be anywhere near a power circuits, operating a car or be allowed to vote.

EDIT: of course it should had been 'shouldn't be anywhere' but it's even better, so I leave it as is.

Re: The MiniPC Revolution

#65

Post by jauntywundrkind »

mcny wrote: post #19

My minisforum mini PC died within two years seemingly our of the blue. Support won't return my emails.

Minisforum is also one of many mini-pc vendors that basically doesn't release bios updates. They might release a couple early on, to try to get systems stable, but after that don't expect any bios updates. AMD will release plenty of updates, & you'll be stuck on whatever it was your system came with.

Different kind of support concern from yours, but also noteworthy. Really unfortunate.

I still have an old HP EliteDesk (i5-8600t) that is my one reliable 24/7 system, still runs fine. Also no bios updates, so I guess there's that. Mini-PCs to me started more as a way to buy cast-off business gear, these small affordable small business systems, even cheaper second hand. It's amazing and great seeing this new market rise up to make interesting mini-pc's, and the value is often still pretty good, but it's a very different character from where the trend started.

Re: The MiniPC Revolution

#66

Post by ahmeneeroe-v2 »

micromacrofoot wrote: post #61
ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah agreed that tenants should buy smart appliances to replace non-functioning fixtures instead!

no, the landlord should fix their property in a timely manner or they should sell it to someone that will a $20 lamp you get to keep is smarter and safer than fixing someone else's property doing unlicensed electrical work at your own cost and without their permission... why does this even have to be explained?

>unlicensed electrical work

Are you from the US? The overwhelming likely fixes to "my bathroom light won't work" are not work that would require skilled electrical work or a permit. The cost is also not likely to be more than a floor lamp, and the tenant can also keep the fixture when they leave.

Also many jurisdictions (willing to bet covering a huge plurality of Americans) would let you subtract the cost of necessary repairs from your rent.

Re: The MiniPC Revolution

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Post by BizarroLand »

I find the idea of a pc being "cheap and replaceable" a negative.

PCs take a lot of resources to make. We shouldn't encourage throw away culture any more than is necessary.

Just my opinion, though.

Re: The MiniPC Revolution

#68

Post by micromacrofoot »

ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #66
micromacrofoot wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

no, the landlord should fix their property in a timely manner or they should sell it to someone that will a $20 lamp you get to keep is smarter and safer than fixing someone else's property doing unlicensed electrical work at your own cost and without their permission... why does this even have to be explained?

>unlicensed electrical work Are you from the US? The overwhelming likely fixes to "my bathroom light won't work" are not work that would require skilled electrical work or a permit. The cost is also not likely to be more than a floor lamp, and the tenant can also keep the fixture when they leave. Also many jurisdictions (willing to bet covering a huge plurality of Americans) would let you subtract the cost of necessa…

I'm glad you've only ever worked with pleasant landlords who don't have dangerous electrical work in their apartments, but this is not my experience

Re: The MiniPC Revolution

#69

Post by micromacrofoot »

justsomehnguy wrote: post #64
giardini wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly yes, b/c even the simplest things can go wrong quickly. E.g. people sometimes change light bulbs w/o turning off the power. Have you ever experienced a dead (or good, for that matter) bulb coming apart as you twist it out of the socket? Would you trust a naive person to properly handle that situation? With power off(easy case)? With power on(difficult)?

You are conflating naive and a barely functional human being. If someone doesn't know what the electricity zaps and couldn't think two steps ahead then they definitely should be anywhere near a power circuits, operating a car or be allowed to vote. EDIT: of course it should had been 'shouldn't be anywhere' but it's even better, so I leave it as is.

you've just excluded at least half of america from voting, however smart you think most people are... the reality is significantly worse

Re: The MiniPC Revolution

#70

Post by giardini »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #62
giardini wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly yes, b/c even the simplest things can go wrong quickly. E.g. people sometimes change light bulbs w/o turning off the power. Have you ever experienced a dead (or good, for that matter) bulb coming apart as you twist it out of the socket? Would you trust a naive person to properly handle that situation? With power off(easy case)? With power on(difficult)?

If they can set up a light with home assistant they can screw in a lightbulb. Come on.

That may be so, but what you say doesn't answer my question: can they unscrew a lightbulb that is literally falling apart as they unscrew it?

ANSWER:

If the power is off, they likely will remove the glass bulb (one piece), examine the situation and then unscrew the metal bulb base (second piece) and finally, remove any stray material in the (unpowered) socket.

If the power is on, the correct answer is "No, they likely cannot unscrew the bulb. Instead they will likely short the circuit, blow a breaker/fuse and put themselves in a situation where they must call in someone more knowledgeable, (or worse)."

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