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Omarchy Is Out

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Re: Omarchy Is Out

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I'm surprised the DHH cult hasn't latched on to projects like Bluefin instead of this. They are way better workflows for development imo. https://docs.projectbluefin.io/bluefin-dx/

If you think it's a cult centered around him, why in the world would that surprise you?

Good point actually

Re: Omarchy Is Out

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The world needs people like DHH.

When he saw issues with the Apple ecosystem, decides to make useful, well thought-out tooling for helping developers adopt Linux. When he saw how expensive the cloud can be, goes on to build open source tooling for deploying on bare-metal servers. Both have been successful.

Not just blog posts. Blog posts followed by hard work to fix the problem.

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I might be in the minority but I actually like overlapping windows - often the entire window is not necessary to get the data I am interested in. Right now I'm running tests in another window and I have a sliver of that window visible while the majority of the screen real-estate gets used for the browser in primary window.

I'm beginning to really like scrolling window managers.

It's optimized for minimal splits (let's say 2-3 windows) per view but it makes it effortless to flip between apps. Floating windows is also an option and making any of them full screen is available too.

Imagine tiling a bunch of pieces of paper on your floor and now you want to focus on a few of them at a time. That's basically what a scrolling window manager allows, you can either swipe on a touchpad, hit the arrow keys or use your mouse wheel to cycle between stuff. Of course you can customize these, that's just a reasonable default.

It's so much faster than manually dealing with workspaces IMO.

I'm currently taking a look into both Hyprland's scrolling plugins and if that fails then Niri. I wish Hyprland's official scrolling plugin was not in an alpha state. I want to stick with Hyprland because everything else about it is really nice.

All of this stuff works independent of Omarchy too since it's 100% related to your window manager.

Here's a video demo: https://youtu.be/r0JUm77inIA?t=319

[Note: I'm not the author of the video but I jumped to a timestamp where he's showing Niri's scrolling features]

Re: Omarchy Is Out

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post #32

The world needs people like DHH. When he saw issues with the Apple ecosystem, decides to make useful, well thought-out tooling for helping developers adopt Linux. When he saw how expensive the cloud can be, goes on to build open source tooling for deploying on bare-metal servers. Both have been successful. Not just blog posts. Blog posts followed by hard work to fix the problem.

I don't know DHH personally, but seeing what he did by introducing ruby on rails, plus listening to his thoughts via the rework podcast, also reading about his company's move away from the hyperscaler cloud providers, and now both the omakube and omarchy offerings...yeah, we need more folks (with his kind of fame of sorts) to help others as well.

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post #29
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The real story with Omarchy is Hyprland. Feels like the first time the desktop Linux is not only fun but that there's a far better case being made for switching to desktop Linux over Windows, not only because of less resource usage, but also a new (old) paradigm in tiling windows, repackaged in a way that doesn't make people want to smash their computer. Hyprland itself comes with such nice defaults that it isn't sur…

I hear Hyprland second only to Gnome in the NixOS world (where it's arguably easier to try different desktop environments compared to e.g. Ubuntu). Now it could just be that Hyprland users are more vocal than XFCE or plasma users, so it's not definitive, but it definitely has "buzz"

yes as an hyprland user, the community is definitely more vocal. I myself convinced one of my friends to use hyprland fedora as his first linux experience which is wild

(I also use nixos too but I use nix plasma and arch hyprland, i mean I barely use nix, arch is my goto but you get my point)

I agree it has buzz but its just cool open source software man, I like it. it isn't as plug n play even still as plasma or gnome for example but that's the point. Makes for a really good minimalist system but for me somethings don't usually work that "just" work on other desktop environments but I learnt a lot and now its a really enjoyable experience.

One example I can give of where I really had a big issue with hyprland was consistent schema around every application. I think its still broken on my system for qt apps which I had fixed but then broke again I think, but I now don't have the time to fix it and its a minor inconvenience at best. nothing wrong to hyprland, that's just fundamentally how it works if you try hyprland like me.

Omarchy seems to be promising the premise of hyprland with "it just works" Maybe if my arch system bricks, I will give omarchy a try. Untill then, I am happy with my theme and hyprland. Its cool. Dhh is also cool for making omarchy tbh.

Re: Omarchy Is Out

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post #35

Last time I checked hyprland was pretty much despised in the wider linux developer community. See for example https://drewdevault.com/2023/09/17/Hyprland-toxicity.html . Has anything about that changed?

The linux developer community has quite a diverse set of opinions so it would be unfair to say that they despise hyprland. At most it's just a small number of developers who hold such an extreme position.

Re: Omarchy Is Out

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re not alone. I can’t make full-time tiling or even tiling-dominant work for me. With how my mind works, full floating 98% of the time with the occasional tile is the right blend. I tile so infrequently that tiling being keybound has net zero impact.

Majority of time I only have 2-4 apps open: terminal/IDE, browser, music player and some IM. Floating windows seems like a waste of space. Browser is full-screen on any regular proportion screen (i.e. not ultra-wide). I rarely use floating windows, even on windowed-WMs.

I’m sure there’s differences in workflow styles. I tend to have multiple tasks in flight at any given moment and switch between them often enough that closing+opening sets of apps and windows represents showstopping overhead, so lots of things just sit open. Floating windows on mutliple desktops with dual monitors suits this style well.

It’s worth noting that I don’t spend large amounts of time in terminals and text editors, but instead in graphical apps and chrome-heavy IDEs which are awkward in tiling setups because of how much screen space they demand. If I were more terminal-heavy I’m sure tiling would make more sense.

Re: Omarchy Is Out

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post #14

The real story with Omarchy is Hyprland. Feels like the first time the desktop Linux is not only fun but that there's a far better case being made for switching to desktop Linux over Windows, not only because of less resource usage, but also a new (old) paradigm in tiling windows, repackaged in a way that doesn't make people want to smash their computer. Hyprland itself comes with such nice defaults that it isn't sur…

Is Hyperland the thing that finally convinces hacker types that Wayland is the future? A Wayland compositor that gives you Xorg like scripting via a UNIX control socket, easy to set up, and is much much less opinionated than GNOME.

So many of the criticisms of Wayland around the internet end up being things that Mutter doesn't let you control directly.

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