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FCC bars providers for non-compliance with robocall protections

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Re: FCC bars providers for non-compliance with robocall protections

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Good start. Next, put the people running these scam phone providers in jail.

Yes! Easy to forget that just because "we" don't fall for them, they're still incredibly harmful to our seniors and other vulnerable populations. Also hate the scam "work from home for $125,000 per year" texts. They really prey on the desperate.

I know a gal whose grandmother sent ~400k to scammers, which is the kind of victim they are looking for - someone in cognitive decline who is malleable. The neighbors apparently also were preying on her, and ended up with her cars and a bunch of other stuff.

Absolute scum of the earth.

Re: FCC bars providers for non-compliance with robocall protections

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Good start. Next, put the people running these scam phone providers in jail.

I'm going to go ahead and say none of them are in the jurisdiction of the DoJ.

No one outside the jurisdiction of my country's laws should be able to make my phone ring or send me text messages without my permission.

Re: FCC bars providers for non-compliance with robocall protections

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many are based in the US and subject to US-based prosecution?

Why can someone from outside the US make my phone ring? Why can't I opt out of calls sourced internationally? Seems like an easy way to fix the problem. There is no reason for anyone overseas to call me, and if someone US-based does phone spamming, we can prosecute them.

I wish only people bearing a token that I've previously signed could call me.

Re: FCC bars providers for non-compliance with robocall protections

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why can someone from outside the US make my phone ring? Why can't I opt out of calls sourced internationally? Seems like an easy way to fix the problem. There is no reason for anyone overseas to call me, and if someone US-based does phone spamming, we can prosecute them.

Why can someone from outside the US make my phone ring? There are applications to block international calls but that only helps if the number is not spoofed. People that have SS7 lines into the telco system can spoof as just about any number. I wanted to kill those circuits but my employer at the time said, "they are paying their bills, arent they?" . This was in the 90's. I guess the laws are every so slowly startin…

SS7 should be nuked from orbit, at some point we have to stop pretending we can't replace that pos.

Re: FCC bars providers for non-compliance with robocall protections

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why can someone from outside the US make my phone ring? There are applications to block international calls but that only helps if the number is not spoofed. People that have SS7 lines into the telco system can spoof as just about any number. I wanted to kill those circuits but my employer at the time said, "they are paying their bills, arent they?" . This was in the 90's. I guess the laws are every so slowly startin…

SS7 should be nuked from orbit, at some point we have to stop pretending we can't replace that pos.

SS7 should be nuked from orbit

I completely agree.

Re: FCC bars providers for non-compliance with robocall protections

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many are based in the US and subject to US-based prosecution?

Why can someone from outside the US make my phone ring? Why can't I opt out of calls sourced internationally? Seems like an easy way to fix the problem. There is no reason for anyone overseas to call me, and if someone US-based does phone spamming, we can prosecute them.

> Why can someone from outside the US make my phone ring? Why can't I opt out of calls sourced internationally?

Because spam call centers pay much more to access phone networks than you do, therefore telcos care about them, and not you. Plus you NEED a phone and they know that.

Re: FCC bars providers for non-compliance with robocall protections

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EVE Online has had a functional anti-spam system for many years: it costs you some money to contact someone who doesn't have you in their contacts.

The amount is configurable and the feature can be turned off.

You as the receiver keep 70% of the fee.

Think of how quickly spam would go away.

Re: FCC bars providers for non-compliance with robocall protections

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Something changed about 1 year ago where the spam calls I get are 10x higher than in the past. It got so bad I had to change how I use my phone. Any caller not in my contact list goes immediately to voicemail.

I’ve tried several robocall blockers, but they tend to cause connectivity issues.

If anyone else has this problem, what are you using to prevent robocalls?

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