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FCC bars providers for non-compliance with robocall protections

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Re: FCC bars providers for non-compliance with robocall protections

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How many are based in the US and subject to US-based prosecution?

That's no longer a barrier to the use of force by the US

Literally has not been a barrier to the US using force to protect commercial interests since "the shores of Tripoli" in 1801.

Re: FCC bars providers for non-compliance with robocall protections

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How many are based in the US and subject to US-based prosecution?

Why can someone from outside the US make my phone ring? Why can't I opt out of calls sourced internationally? Seems like an easy way to fix the problem. There is no reason for anyone overseas to call me, and if someone US-based does phone spamming, we can prosecute them.

Why can someone from outside the US make my phone ring?

There are applications to block international calls but that only helps if the number is not spoofed. People that have SS7 lines into the telco system can spoof as just about any number. I wanted to kill those circuits but my employer at the time said, "they are paying their bills, arent they?". This was in the 90's. I guess the laws are every so slowly starting to catch up.

Re: FCC bars providers for non-compliance with robocall protections

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Good start. Next, put the people running these scam phone providers in jail.

How many are based in the US and subject to US-based prosecution?

Even when the scammers are out of the US, at some point in the chain a US based telephone company is accepting inbound connections that don't provide the validation required.

Re: FCC bars providers for non-compliance with robocall protections

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Good start. Next, put the people running these scam phone providers in jail.

How many are based in the US and subject to US-based prosecution?

The scale of fraud is such that this should factor into trade talks.

Also, pragmatically, basically everywhere outside of China and Russia is subject to US "prosecution".

Re: FCC bars providers for non-compliance with robocall protections

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How many are based in the US and subject to US-based prosecution?

Why can someone from outside the US make my phone ring? Why can't I opt out of calls sourced internationally? Seems like an easy way to fix the problem. There is no reason for anyone overseas to call me, and if someone US-based does phone spamming, we can prosecute them.

This would be awesome. Next step would be filtering out non-US IPs from any online content (including forum comments, videos, tweets, etc)

Re: FCC bars providers for non-compliance with robocall protections

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Why can someone from outside the US make my phone ring? Why can't I opt out of calls sourced internationally? Seems like an easy way to fix the problem. There is no reason for anyone overseas to call me, and if someone US-based does phone spamming, we can prosecute them.

You're right, it is an easy technical fix. Mainland China lets people opt out of phone calls that come from outside of the Mainland...it's a feature one can turn off on an on their mobile plan. Calls from outside the Mainland always cause a warning to pop up on the receiving user's phone that says something like "this call is coming from outside of the mainland, be careful of being scammed". I can imagine there are m…

>I can imagine there are many reasons the US doesn't fix this..one of which probably that much of US customer service is outsourced to people outside the US!

This. Gotta have your round robin of foreign call centers be able to spoof the main customer service line numbers for whoever they're contracted to represent.

Personally I think that should all be done in software these days, not something supported at the teleco level but what do I know.

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Good start. Next, put the people running these scam phone providers in jail.

Good start. Next, put the people running these scam phone providers in jail.

I agree. In fact, 1200 SS7 circuits is nothing. If these people are not locked up they will just get another circuit using another fake identity. It's like blocking 1200 ASN's and saying one made a dent in spam.

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Why can someone from outside the US make my phone ring? Why can't I opt out of calls sourced internationally? Seems like an easy way to fix the problem. There is no reason for anyone overseas to call me, and if someone US-based does phone spamming, we can prosecute them.

Why can someone from outside the US make my phone ring? There are applications to block international calls but that only helps if the number is not spoofed. People that have SS7 lines into the telco system can spoof as just about any number. I wanted to kill those circuits but my employer at the time said, "they are paying their bills, arent they?" . This was in the 90's. I guess the laws are every so slowly startin…

> I wanted to kill those circuits but my employer at the time said, "they are paying their bills, arent they?".

This is loud to me, mostly because the last time I got non-TCPA compliant texts trying to solicit business, the VOIP provider refused to give the company's actual name or contact info.

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