One starts to wonder, at what point might it be actually feasible to do it the other way around, by whitelisting IP ranges. I could see this happening as a community effort, similar to adblocker list curation etc.
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Ban me at the IP level if you don't like me
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#12One starts to wonder, at what point might it be actually feasible to do it the other way around, by whitelisting IP ranges. I could see this happening as a community effort, similar to adblocker list curation etc.
At that point it almost sounds like we're doing "peering" agreements at the IP level.
Would it make sense to have a class of ISPs that didn't peer with these "bad" network participants?
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#17We solved a lot of our problems by blocking all Chinese ASNs. Admittedly, not the friendliest solution, but there were so many issues originating from Chinese clients that it was easier to just ban the entire country.
It's not like we can capitalize on commerce in China anyway, so I think it's a fairly pragmatic approach.
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#18One starts to wonder, at what point might it be actually feasible to do it the other way around, by whitelisting IP ranges. I could see this happening as a community effort, similar to adblocker list curation etc.
At that point it almost sounds like we're doing "peering" agreements at the IP level. Would it make sense to have a class of ISPs that didn't peer with these "bad" network participants?
If this didn’t happen for spam, it’s not going to happen for crawlers.
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>There is no need to disagree on such strongly worded statements.
What's the bigoted history of those terms?
from here[0]:
"The English dramatist Philip Massinger used the phrase "black list" in his 1639 tragedy The Unnatural Combat.[2]
"After the restoration of the English monarchy brought Charles II of England to the throne in 1660, a list of regicides named those to be punished for the execution of his father.[3] The state papers of Charles II say "If any innocent soul be found in this black list, let him not be offended at me, but consider whether some mistaken principle or interest may not have misled him to vote".[4] In a 1676 history of the events leading up to the Restoration, James Heath (a supporter of Charles II) alleged that Parliament had passed an Act requiring the sale of estates, "And into this black list the Earl of Derby was now put, and other unfortunate Royalists".[5]"
Are you an enemy of Charles II? Is that what the problem is?
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacklisting#Origins_of_the_te...