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Ask HN: I just abandoned my PyCharm subscription, what should I use now?

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Ask HN: I just abandoned my PyCharm subscription, what should I use now?

#1
I was just using PyCharm, which I have paid for and used for many years now, and and an ad for their 'Cadence' product came up in the IDE as a notification. I have now canceled my subscription and am looking for a good alternative. The majority of work I do is with python and I'm looking for solid step trace debugging and something that integrates reasonably well with Claude Code and other tools like it. Above all else though I am looking for something that won't advertise to me. I am willing to pay, I like supporting software I use, so what should I be looking for in the age of Claude code, Windsurf and the like?

Re: Ask HN: I just abandoned my PyCharm subscription, what should I use now?

#3

Neovim, simple answer. No subscriptions, no ads, fast, free forever. Have a look at the integrations.

Agree! Bit of a steep learning curve in the beginning but once you get over that, it is a very productive coding environment. Check out the Neovim distros (e.g., LazyVim, NvChad) to get up and running quickly.

Re: Ask HN: I just abandoned my PyCharm subscription, what should I use now?

#7
VS Code has the second best lsp for Python (it’s proprietary), there is open source version of it as well with less features.

The problem with other editors is the lack of good and fast lsp. Pycharm’s lsp is so head of everyone.

In VS Code and other editors the lsp for Python is written in JavaScript which is hilarious.

Re: Ask HN: I just abandoned my PyCharm subscription, what should I use now?

#8
I'm so incredibly disappointed at how quickly JetBrains is enshittifying what used to be the best set of IDEs available.

I paid for the all products pack for nearly ten years. I gave up a while ago and I'm just stuck using my fallback licenses for the 2024.1 builds, which are IMO the last usable versions.

Re: Ask HN: I just abandoned my PyCharm subscription, what should I use now?

#9
My hunch is VSCode or more likely Cursor. I’ve spent some time this summer trying to get IDE independent tooling running and have settled on Ruff + basedpyright. Also switched over to using UV. You may want to look into Astral’s TY or facebook’s rust based Pyrefly if keen to alpha / beta test.

I found getting VSCode properly set up and figuring out what extensions were needed a real pain in the ass and have never found something as good as Pycharm’s Git integration.

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