calling people "uncultured" for sticking to the conventions of their country is ridiculous and invalidates the author's entire argument. He makes 1 (MAYBE 2) valid argument(s) in the entire piece and largely comes off as a pretentious ass. By his logic we shouldn't have to call this language "English" because it's not just spoken in England. The US invented the internet, if he wants to impose his warped, socialist views, he should create his own internet.
Lessons for uncultured web developers
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#63Good list, and interesting how at least half of the points are about localisation/internationalization. The date point was good I find that one very annoying. The easiest way to work it out on forums is usually to look at the previous post and see what number goes down (day). I didn't realise the mm/dd format was only officially used in two countries. I've never understood why it's use at all, it makes much more sens…
I prefer year-month-day. This extends logically into time, and plays well with regular math. Except for switching base every digit.
Switching base every digit is fun. Before Britain made their currency dull, some LEO and ICT (later ICL) computers did £sd arithmetic in hardware.
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#64calling people "uncultured" for sticking to the conventions of their country is ridiculous and invalidates the author's entire argument. He makes 1 (MAYBE 2) valid argument(s) in the entire piece and largely comes off as a pretentious ass. By his logic we shouldn't have to call this language "English" because it's not just spoken in England. The US invented the internet, if he wants to impose his warped, socialist vi…
> if he wants to impose his warped, socialist views, he should create his own internet
Words have meanings, maybe you should learn them before you use them. Here's a hint, socialist isn't an insult or a dirty word.
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is this at all relevant to the linked article?
Isn't the link saying that web dev is a more free and cross compatible environment because no one organization controls it? I thought it was sort of relevant. Basically a reason to do web Dec.
By that criteria it could be posted on any web dev article. THIS one was specifically about internationalization and localization.
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#66> Why are these US only? It’s a conundrum which we probably don’t regularly need to worry about, but it’s unusual all the same (I’d love to hear insight on why there’s no .us on these). History of the internet: it was invented as a US department of defense research project, and grew into the beast it is today. You could buy a .com address years before the internet existed outside the US. Note that .uk exists for the…
> You could buy a .com address years before the internet existed outside the US. The .com tld was created in 1984, at which point there had already been international links for over a decade, so that doesn't really support the argument.
I thought that the links, at the time, went mostly to other networks -- ones running X.25 or something.
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#67> Why are these US only? It’s a conundrum which we probably don’t regularly need to worry about, but it’s unusual all the same (I’d love to hear insight on why there’s no .us on these). History of the internet: it was invented as a US department of defense research project, and grew into the beast it is today. You could buy a .com address years before the internet existed outside the US. Note that .uk exists for the…
.arpa didn't disappear, it changed its purpose.
Would you mind elaborating on this? I'm curious.
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#68>Firefox and Chrome command 91% of the market ... This is a perfect example of where knowing your audience is key and blanket statements made on a global scale are frequently irrelevant.
Just in case you fall into a premature delusion: If you market to Europe or Asia at all:
http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-eu-monthly-201108-201208-... http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-as-monthly-201108-201208-...
Asia and Europe beg to differ with their 25%+ IE ratios. Sometimes you can't "know your market". Google didn't market orkut to any region but by some freak chance of nature it became the social network in Brazil. Many times, you can't know who will use your product until they do.
Will you find buyers for your product in Asia or Europe? Considering the number of people who live there, probably.
p.s. One thing that bothers me about statcounter is that there are no absolute sample sizes specified so for all you know, the data could be based on 100 people.
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#69calling people "uncultured" for sticking to the conventions of their country is ridiculous and invalidates the author's entire argument. He makes 1 (MAYBE 2) valid argument(s) in the entire piece and largely comes off as a pretentious ass. By his logic we shouldn't have to call this language "English" because it's not just spoken in England. The US invented the internet, if he wants to impose his warped, socialist vi…
How are his views "warped" or "socialist"? You're joking, right?
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#70Qihoo’s 360 browser is not a full browser it behaves like an addon to IE. It will use the IE kernel of whatever version is installed on the users machine. So if the user still has IE6 it will render pages with the IE6 kernel. You dont really need to pay attention to it as a web developer you just need to know that if it the page displays correctly in IE6 then it should display correctly for a user Qihoo’s 360 browser…
"if it the page displays correctly in IE6"
...erm, well damn.
Why's it so popular, compared to Firefox, Chrome, or something else?