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AGI is an engineering problem, not a model training problem

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Re: AGI is an engineering problem, not a model training problem

#4
Way out of touch.

AGI is poorly defined and thus is a science "problem", and a very low priority one at that.

No amount of engineering or model training is going to get us AGI until someone defines what properties are required and then researches what can be done to achieve them within our existing theories of computation which all computers being manufactured today are built upon.

Re: AGI is an engineering problem, not a model training problem

#5
I think that completely discounting the potential of new emergent capabilities at scale undermines this thesis significantly. We don't know until someone tries, and there is compelling evidence that there's still plenty of juice to squeeze out of both scale and engineering.

Re: AGI is an engineering problem, not a model training problem

#8

Way out of touch. AGI is poorly defined and thus is a science "problem", and a very low priority one at that. No amount of engineering or model training is going to get us AGI until someone defines what properties are required and then researches what can be done to achieve them within our existing theories of computation which all computers being manufactured today are built upon.

It strikes me that until we fully understand human consciousness, we don't stand a chance of reaching AGI.

Am I incorrect?

Re: AGI is an engineering problem, not a model training problem

#10
We don't know if AGI is even possible outside of a biological construct yet. This is key. Can we land on AGI without some clear indication of possibility (aka Chappie style)? Possibly, but the likelihood is low. Quite low. It's essentially groping in the dark.

A good contrast is quantum computing. We know that's possible, even feasible, and now are trying to overcome the engineering hurdles. And people still think that's vaporware.

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