Apple is a US company. I can't see a US court backing HTC. There will be a loophole. Watch this space.
Creative wasnt US company... Stop watching.
HTC's patents could lead to an ban on the next iPhone & iPad
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Re: HTC's patents could lead to an ban on the next iPhone & iPad
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nokia owns loads of patents for GSM which the standards bodies negotiated terms on; I'm sure it will happen here as well.
Apple has already settled with Nokia: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/jun/14/apple-nokia...
Yes, but Apple being sued over patents is OK, it's only when they sue somebody else that there's a problem.
It's just like with Chinese labour. Everyone else uses them, but Apple using them is wrong, even if they pay more than everyone else and the workers prefer to work in the Apple device factories.
Didn't you get the memo?
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#23“I don’t care if they bought these patents to sue you or not,” Pender told McKeon. “They are a property right.”
Surely he should care if people are purchasing patents purely for litigation. There are not many other items that you can legally purchase for the sole purpose of using the courts to stop someone from doing something that would otherwise be perfectly legal.
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#24On the one hand, I'm pretty sick of this nonsense. On the other hand, it might be in everyone's best interest if HTC succeeds here. If millions of fanboys are denied their shiny new iPhones and Apple, which is rather well connected in Washington, finally winds up losing money due to the patent system, maybe we'll finally seem some progress towards reform.
For me, it's been fascinating to see what huge companies that are flush with more cash than ever before [1] will do with that cash during a prolonged recession. The most common argument for continuing to lower taxes on businesses is that it will stimulate the economy because the businesses will spend the money on their employees. It looks like what actually happens is that they spend the money waging legal wars again…
I think you'd need more and better stats than a few large mobile phone companies in a turf war to really draw that conclusion.
Re: HTC's patents could lead to an ban on the next iPhone & iPad
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple has already settled with Nokia: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/jun/14/apple-nokia...
Yes, but Apple being sued over patents is OK, it's only when they sue somebody else that there's a problem. It's just like with Chinese labour. Everyone else uses them, but Apple using them is wrong, even if they pay more than everyone else and the workers prefer to work in the Apple device factories. Didn't you get the memo?
The problem is that Apple was the one who started using patents offensively, as far as I know.
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#26Once Apple will announce LTE on iPhone all hell will break loose. HTC has two related patents, Samsung - 79. Source: http://www.networkworld.com/news/2012/042612-lte-patent-wars...
I thought the LTE patents are covered under FRAND. Isn't Samsung being investigated for FRAND abuse.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
For me, it's been fascinating to see what huge companies that are flush with more cash than ever before [1] will do with that cash during a prolonged recession. The most common argument for continuing to lower taxes on businesses is that it will stimulate the economy because the businesses will spend the money on their employees. It looks like what actually happens is that they spend the money waging legal wars again…
I think you'd need more and better stats than a few large mobile phone companies in a turf war to really draw that conclusion.
Indeed; I need to learn more about the Long Depression (1873-79 or longer, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Depression and obviously right when POTS was being developed) but I know that this sort of problem was big in the Great Depression.
Re: HTC's patents could lead to an ban on the next iPhone & iPad
#28On the one hand, I'm pretty sick of this nonsense. On the other hand, it might be in everyone's best interest if HTC succeeds here. If millions of fanboys are denied their shiny new iPhones and Apple, which is rather well connected in Washington, finally winds up losing money due to the patent system, maybe we'll finally seem some progress towards reform.
For me, it's been fascinating to see what huge companies that are flush with more cash than ever before [1] will do with that cash during a prolonged recession. The most common argument for continuing to lower taxes on businesses is that it will stimulate the economy because the businesses will spend the money on their employees. It looks like what actually happens is that they spend the money waging legal wars again…
Legal wars tend to be expensive because they involve spending a lot of money on employees, though.
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#29Hopefully this will be the case that gives Cook the ability to "gracefully withdraw" from Jobs' legal intifada against Android, and we can end this silliness for good.
There is no Android vs iPhone here. At worst for Apple, they let HTC off the hook and continue against others, for as long as they can.
It doesn't sound like there could be any "let HTC off the hook". The whole point of this is that HTC is seeking an injunction against Apple. Even if Apple withdrew all complaints, HTC could still seek that injunction.
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#30If closing Apple is the end game, can they take on the world... and win?