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If we can find information by asking GenAI, who needs the Web?

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Re: If we can find information by asking GenAI, who needs the Web?

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I guess people that need to verify the correctness of their information still need the web.

We still have books, and libraries. And some libraries have books.

Sadly, most of the stuff most people want to verify is "breaking news" and "gossip".

Did the pope really wear a puffy white coat? Does it really matter?

Re: If we can find information by asking GenAI, who needs the Web?

#32

> While the ecosystem in which the Web thrived had one colossal flaw, namely, Surveillance Capitalism,b it had a stable business model. That business model is now being threatened by GenAI Good. If there is one silver lining to generative AI, then it is that programmatic advertising will become less viable as a source of income. If the internet were to overnight become a place where it is impossible to make money via…

Not good. Have you considered the second order effects of a breakdown of communications? Marketing and Advertising is about communicating a product to someone that may be interested in purchasing it. If Communications is jammed because AI slop has dominated the web, no marketing happens, no hiring happens, no purchases are made because no jobs. In short order (relatively speaking), you get deflationary collapse of al…

> If Communications is jammed because AI slop has dominated the web, no marketing happens

Don't threaten ME with a good time!

Re: If we can find information by asking GenAI, who needs the Web?

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What happens when openai starts interjecting ads into chatgpt output?

You ask Chat to add some tags to its output, via your prompt. You get your browser to filter output that is not tagged properly. Counter measures will need another LLM "AI" to filter out efforts to filter out ads from my prompts. However, when openai's adversary is their customer, my money is on me!

That's a dumb way to do advertising. The "right" way is to shift all the weights a little, so that it's influencing you with everything it says but you don't even see it happening.

Re: If we can find information by asking GenAI, who needs the Web?

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Browsing "the web" has been painful for years thanks to SEO and ads. Most people already spend their time in walled gardens, selectively jumping out to specific linked sites. Does AI fundamentally change this, or is it just a better front-end for the search engine?

Re: If we can find information by asking GenAI, who needs the Web?

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post #36

No, web has new info to feed ai

The web has been replaced by walled garden apps.

Most people consume Reddit through, specifically, the iOS version of the app. The same is true of TikTok and Instagram. This is how most people get their news.

Google destroyed web discoverability and search. Platforms sucked up all of the value and monopolized distribution.

The indie web is pretty much dead for normal people. It's only us developer / hacker / enthusiasts that have websites and play around with CSS.

The news and content gets consumed by most people through apps and the walled-gardens.

Re: If we can find information by asking GenAI, who needs the Web?

#38

Because soon the information you get with GenAI will contain ads in a way that you cannot distinguish it from real information. You want the ability to look at 4-5 sources, vet them, and draw your own conclusions.

Well, on the web, you get 4-5 sources, all of which are ads, three of which are owned by the same company and the other two are generated SEO spam.
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