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Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by prmoustache »

tsimionescu wrote: post #76
Semaphor wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you use some sketchy TLDs, I've not heard of that

I've seen plenty of stories of people who forget or are unable for whatever reason to renew their domain names on time.

You are usually warned by email a lot of times before it ever happens. Make sure you receive them on devices and an email address you actually pay attention to. I also put an entry in my calendar a month before every renewal.

The funny part is you need an email address already to register a domain, at least during a bootstrapping phase. I have several domains across 2 registrars with renewals at different time of the year.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by raffraffraff »

RandomBacon wrote: post #39
raffraffraff wrote: post #20

I moved myself and my wife's business away from Google, but that hasn't been without it's issues. Even though we're using a globally recognised mail provider and have DKIM, SPF etc all set up perfectly, we get bounced or delayed by certain mail admins. There are also occasional delays and issues. One thing I'll say about Gmail is that it's extremely reliable.

What provider? Running an online forum, I've encountered people using Atomic Mail, and that service has terrible reliability.

Namecheap's "private email" service.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by alchemist1e9 »

octo888 wrote: post #93
stkai wrote: post #6

One thing I'd recommend is getting your own domain for email (looks like mailbox.org allows custom domains with some plans). You never know what will happen to your email provider in the future, so having the freedom to move your domain to a different provider is valuable.

It comes with responsibility too. Renewing your domain, keeping your registrar account safe, keeping your DNS records safe etc Some people prefer a domain registrar that allows 10 year renewals so pick carefully as not all do

It does and I’ve been hoping to see more discussion around best registrars from a domain security perspective. I looked into CSC (cscglobal.com) since it’s what a lot of big companies use, but it’s crazy expensive ($5K+/yr). Even worse, their contract is wild: no guarantee of registration/renewal, all fees non-refundable, they can hike prices anytime, liability capped at $5K, DNS is “as-is” with only credits for outages, and they can unmask WHOIS privacy at will. Basically you pay enterprise prices while they disclaim almost all responsibility.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by jeffparsons »

onlyhumans wrote: post #134
rendleflag wrote: post #122

I’ve been a Fastmail user for years, having left Gmail. It works great and have nothing be but praise for them. I use my own domain with them so if I decide to leave it’s not an issue worrying about updating people with my new email.

Fastmail is kind of a weird service. If you stop paying they release your email for someone else to take over. Pretty unacceptable this day and age.

This would be easily solved for customers who care about it by allowing you to pay a one-off fee to reserve the name for ~100 years.

Or they could just absorb that.

Any idea why it works that way? Have they offered an explanation?

I'm a Fastmail customer but I've never noticed this because I use my own domain.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by FireBeyond »

onlyhumans wrote: post #134
rendleflag wrote: post #122

I’ve been a Fastmail user for years, having left Gmail. It works great and have nothing be but praise for them. I use my own domain with them so if I decide to leave it’s not an issue worrying about updating people with my new email.

Fastmail is kind of a weird service. If you stop paying they release your email for someone else to take over. Pretty unacceptable this day and age.

I use Fastmail with my own domain. I am not sure of the logic that says paying $60/year for email is fine, but $8/year for a domain is a bridge too far.

Do that, it's a non-issue, though I do agree with you that it shouldn't be a thing (or at least have like a multiple year embargo on the address).

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by thewebguyd »

xandrius wrote: post #132
prof-dr-ir wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am very interested in moving my photos and data to a self-hosted solution but am a little anxious about backups. Do you simply trust hetzner to not lose the data on your 1TB storage box? (I am aware that I am currently trusting google and dropbox to do just that.)

To be fair if both google and dropbox can't take care of 1TB of data, who can? My solution against photo anxiety is to actually look at them and decide to physically print the best ones every year. More likely to be used as gifts or just fun to look through them in a photo album, nobody is going to sit next to you on a phone or computer but bring out an old photo album and everyone is on it.

I do professional wedding photography as a side business.

Yes, please print your photos! I love it when my clients print their photos, and I print my favorites as well. There's still something magical about a real, physical photo vs. digital.

I have vast archives of digital photos and you know what? I barely look at them, but I have prints up all over my walls, in my wallet, etc and I enjoy them all the time.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by Sayrus »

NomDePlum wrote: post #150
onlyhumans wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fastmail is kind of a weird service. If you stop paying they release your email for someone else to take over. Pretty unacceptable this day and age.

How's that different from any other provider?

Most prevent your username/email from being reused but restrict access or storage. From what I've seen, the delay often ranges from 30 days to years (but not guaranteed).

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by winrid »

NomDePlum wrote: post #150
onlyhumans wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fastmail is kind of a weird service. If you stop paying they release your email for someone else to take over. Pretty unacceptable this day and age.

How's that different from any other provider?

At the very least it's weird when you consider their privacy focused marketing and the fact that it costs them like nothing to delete the data but mark that email taken.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by octo888 »

nine_k wrote: post #138
palata wrote: post #118

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> supports Graphene but there are too many trade-offs there What are the tradeoffs? I have been following GrapheneOS for a while, and it doesn't seem like there are many tradeoffs. > OpenStreetMap is still really hard to use and gives bad directions. OpenStreetMap is a database, and most commercial services that are not Google use it. E.g. Uber or Lyft. You just need to find an app that you like. CoMaps is nice, OSMA…

Can you use GrapheneOS with your bank app? With a digital wallet for NFC cards? With Uber or Lyft? (Asking seriously, not rhetorically.)

Contactless payments is the the big one that doesn't work and probably won't. You can do in app payments via Google pay though

Many banking apps work fine though not all.

Re: Leaving Gmail for Mailbox.org

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Post by callahad »

nine_k wrote: post #138
palata wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> supports Graphene but there are too many trade-offs there What are the tradeoffs? I have been following GrapheneOS for a while, and it doesn't seem like there are many tradeoffs. > OpenStreetMap is still really hard to use and gives bad directions. OpenStreetMap is a database, and most commercial services that are not Google use it. E.g. Uber or Lyft. You just need to find an app that you like. CoMaps is nice, OSMA…

Can you use GrapheneOS with your bank app? With a digital wallet for NFC cards? With Uber or Lyft? (Asking seriously, not rhetorically.)

My understanding from looking into this two years ago is that it's hit or miss for banks (depending on if they opt into device attestation stuff), no for NFC / Google Wallet, and yes for Uber / Lyft.

Apparently the common workaround for the Google Wallet stuff is to pair a GrapheneOS phone with a stock Android smartwatch.

Edit: Here's some additional information on banking apps: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compa...

Apparently the common recommendation these days is to use Curve Pay as a virtual card provider on GrapheneOS, which can then route to arbitrary underlying cards. And evidently Google Wallet does work for things that aren't payment cards (airline tickets, transit passes, etc.) on GrapheneOS.

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