Genuine question- How does Govt picking winners and losers going to help? Intel is no Too big to fail Bank. Why save Intel of all chip manufacturers? Wouldnt it be like 25 years too late, with Intel and its heydays !? Would Govt now ensure parity by investing in "marquee" entities across different industrial domains?
Yeah why not fund a new foundry startup?
It would take a decade and hundreds of billions of dollars with no guarantee it would work.
i remember when this happened during an actual crisis, in 2008, republicans all over cried on the radio day after day, arguing that it's socialiasm. But now, crickets!!
Exactly! I know there's a lot of Trumpers/MAGAs on HN, so I'm sincerely asking them: How is this not the evil thing you guys constantly lecture us about (socialism!)?
Because they only lecture about socialism as a red herring. They only care about power and obtaining it. Fascists have no actual principles other than more power and hatred of others.
I despite/abhor this administration and their politics, but this is a good move. There should be more privatization where national interests are involved. Instead of the ACA for example,the government could have taken a 51% stake in health insurers (forget subsidizing them, own them!) and we the voters would elect politicians to oversee health insurance instead of hoping and trusting CEOs. So many problems are caused…
I agree. He should take control of Tesla, OpenAI, Palantir and Facebook next. Then privatize some of the leading quantum computing companies. Why do we even need venture capital if we can just build out an Office of Strategic Investment and control everything from the federal government. \s
So no shareholder vote required? It is equivalent to a 10% dilution (shares issued for no extra cash).
No, the shares already existed, they were just held by Intel. According to their most recent 10-K, 10 billion shares of common stock are authorized, but only 4.33 billion were issued and outstanding.
> "The United States paid nothing for these Shares, and the Shares are now valued at approximately $11 Billion Dollars,” President Trump wrote" This wasn't any sort of investment, it was blackmail. No corporation in the country would voluntarily give up 10% of the company to the federal government - for free - unless overtly threatened. The Trump administration is hoping that by exerting control over Intel, it can be…
And now we see Trump taking over the US economy! He will not stop there, of course. If Intel folded, other companies of "national interest" will follow suit and Trump will appoint his friends to each of them.
For a party who talks constantly about freedom, this administration is sure doing a lot to encroach on said freedom, of both individuals and corporations.
Ironic, Western politicians thought opening up to trade with China would lead to it adopting a Western model of government. Instead it's lead to the USA adopting the Chinese one.
Kinda. But I think the current Chinese model is actually much closer to how the USA used to work when there was competition with the USSR. Closer than the US of today compared to the 70s and 80s.
Ironic, Western politicians thought opening up to trade with China would lead to it adopting a Western model of government. Instead it's lead to the USA adopting the Chinese one.
That's needlessly rude. I just found the sequence of events confusing. If I promise you a cash gift, then some months later demand you to give me something in return for the promised gift, it would be silly to say that I paid absolutely nothing. I don't consider that pedantic.