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U.S. government takes 10% stake in Intel

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Re: U.S. government takes 10% stake in Intel

#71

> the government made an $8.9 billion investment in Intel common stock, purchasing 433.3 million shares at a price of $20.47 per share, giving it a 10% stake in the company > The United States paid nothing for these Shares, and the Shares are now valued at approximately $11 Billion Dollars I don't understand. Can somebody explain to me how the government made an investement, bought shares, but paid nothing?

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Re: U.S. government takes 10% stake in Intel

#72

i remember when this happened during an actual crisis, in 2008, republicans all over cried on the radio day after day, arguing that it's socialiasm. But now, crickets!!

The Republican party of 2008 bears little resemblance to the one of 2025, especially on economic issues. Many in the party have changed their views over the last decade+ on industrial policy and the libertarian wing of the party has very little influence now. It's really a striking shift.

What remains of the "old guard" is, in fact, loudly complaining about this move:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/08/the-government-should...

Re: U.S. government takes 10% stake in Intel

#73

i remember when this happened during an actual crisis, in 2008, republicans all over cried on the radio day after day, arguing that it's socialiasm. But now, crickets!!

Exactly! I know there's a lot of Trumpers/MAGAs on HN, so I'm sincerely asking them: How is this not the evil thing you guys constantly lecture us about (socialism!)?

Re: U.S. government takes 10% stake in Intel

#75
post #33

This is worse than I expected. They're apparently putting in no new money and retroactively demanding stock in exchange for grants that were already awarded. If Intel can't afford to build 14A and we're putting in no net new money... then Intel still can't afford 14A? Unless they were lying.

Maybe it’s more about affording 641A

Re: U.S. government takes 10% stake in Intel

#76
> Of the total, $5.7 billion of the government funds will come from grants under the CHIPS Act that had been awarded

Also > "Your CHIPs Act is a horrible, horrible thing...You should get rid of the CHIP act and whatever's left over Mr. Speaker" - Donald Trump

Fast forward to today: > "This is a great Deal for America and, also, a great Deal for INTEL." - Donald Trump

Re: U.S. government takes 10% stake in Intel

#77
post #25

Genuine question- How does Govt picking winners and losers going to help? Intel is no Too big to fail Bank. Why save Intel of all chip manufacturers? Wouldnt it be like 25 years too late, with Intel and its heydays !? Would Govt now ensure parity by investing in "marquee" entities across different industrial domains?

> How does Govt picking winners and losers going to help? By ensuring that the US retains at least the ability to manufacture second tier CPUs vs complete reliance on Asia? This doesn't seem unreasonable.

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Re: U.S. government takes 10% stake in Intel

#78

> the government made an $8.9 billion investment in Intel common stock, purchasing 433.3 million shares at a price of $20.47 per share, giving it a 10% stake in the company > The United States paid nothing for these Shares, and the Shares are now valued at approximately $11 Billion Dollars I don't understand. Can somebody explain to me how the government made an investement, bought shares, but paid nothing?

If someone from the Mafia comes to you and asks for a 10% share of your restaurant you better say yes.

Re: U.S. government takes 10% stake in Intel

#79
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a bailout; it's the opposite of taxes.

Isn't it the opposite of a bailout, given that the US gov't is seizing an ownership stake retroactively based on past grants/bailouts but giving no new money at this time?

The CHIPS Act was the bailout; this is just replacing the previous profit sharing with equity.

Re: U.S. government takes 10% stake in Intel

#80
Comrades,

Starting today, under the government’s guidance, Intel shall serve the needs of the needs of the nation - not the whims of oligarchs.

Liberated from wasteful and destructive capitalistic competition, Intel’s revolutionary “people’s processors” (soon to be developed) will ensure that the world’s most advanced AI chips are made in America. And priced within the reach of every US worker.

Viva la revolution! Viva Intel!

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