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HTC's patents could lead to an ban on the next iPhone & iPad

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Re: HTC's patents could lead to an ban on the next iPhone & iPad

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Post by pestaa »

beloch wrote: post #7

On the one hand, I'm pretty sick of this nonsense. On the other hand, it might be in everyone's best interest if HTC succeeds here. If millions of fanboys are denied their shiny new iPhones and Apple, which is rather well connected in Washington, finally winds up losing money due to the patent system, maybe we'll finally seem some progress towards reform.

So the patent system would more likely get reworked when a favored company loses money in the lawmakers' home so that they can put their hands on otherwise banned products? Interesting definition of 'HTC succeeding' here. I still hope you're right, though.

Re: HTC's patents could lead to an ban on the next iPhone & iPad

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Post by nathan_long »

alexchamberlain wrote: post #4

Dear Judges of the World, Please declare all relevant patent holders to modern mobile phone and tablet technology must grant Compulsory Licences. Regards, The World This is getting ridiculous - very few of these patents are really innovative anyway! References: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_licensing

Absolutely. And the licensing had better be cheap for new entrants to the market.

The important implication of stories like this is not "Giant Company #1 may be hampered by Giant Company #2's intellectual property."

Rather, it's "somewhere, someone who could make the Next Big Thing has just read this and decided not to bother, since making any device with a screen and menus and network access would probably get you sued."

This is exactly the opposite of what intellectual property (at least in the U.S.) is for: "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts".

Re: HTC's patents could lead to an ban on the next iPhone & iPad

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Post by onetimeuse001 »

alexchamberlain wrote: post #4

Dear Judges of the World, Please declare all relevant patent holders to modern mobile phone and tablet technology must grant Compulsory Licences. Regards, The World This is getting ridiculous - very few of these patents are really innovative anyway! References: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_licensing

Can they? Judges have to go by existing laws, not invent them.

Re: HTC's patents could lead to an ban on the next iPhone & iPad

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Post by onetimeuse001 »

redthrowaway wrote: post #2

Hopefully this will be the case that gives Cook the ability to "gracefully withdraw" from Jobs' legal intifada against Android, and we can end this silliness for good.

There is no Android vs iPhone here. At worst for Apple, they let HTC off the hook and continue against others, for as long as they can.

Re: HTC's patents could lead to an ban on the next iPhone & iPad

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Post by alexchamberlain »

onetimeuse001 wrote: post #14
alexchamberlain wrote: post #4

Dear Judges of the World, Please declare all relevant patent holders to modern mobile phone and tablet technology must grant Compulsory Licences. Regards, The World This is getting ridiculous - very few of these patents are really innovative anyway! References: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_licensing

Can they? Judges have to go by existing laws, not invent them.

I honestly don't know; more prominent lawyers/judges etc could comment on it at least to encourage governments to step in. A lot of time and money is being wasted here.

Re: HTC's patents could lead to an ban on the next iPhone & iPad

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Post by alexchamberlain »

bgarbiak wrote: post #6

Once Apple will announce LTE on iPhone all hell will break loose. HTC has two related patents, Samsung - 79. Source: http://www.networkworld.com/news/2012/042612-lte-patent-wars...

Nokia owns loads of patents for GSM which the standards bodies negotiated terms on; I'm sure it will happen here as well.

Re: HTC's patents could lead to an ban on the next iPhone & iPad

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Post by eckyptang »

mrich wrote: post #5
eckyptang wrote: post #3

Am I the only one who is utterly tired of reading this sort of stuff? All it proves is that smart phone vendors are universally asshats and this market is dangerous, risky and volatile so I don't want to be involved.

Most markets where money can be made are like that, though...

Not really. I've worked in many competitive markets and we've not been suing the asses of each other. A victory for another is motivation for us.

Re: HTC's patents could lead to an ban on the next iPhone & iPad

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Post by codeka »

beloch wrote: post #7

On the one hand, I'm pretty sick of this nonsense. On the other hand, it might be in everyone's best interest if HTC succeeds here. If millions of fanboys are denied their shiny new iPhones and Apple, which is rather well connected in Washington, finally winds up losing money due to the patent system, maybe we'll finally seem some progress towards reform.

I think the most likely outcome of HTC "succeeding" would just be that Apple and HTC agree to "cross-license" between each other.

My guess is that Apple will enter cross-licensing deals with each of the major manufacturers, which is actually much worse because it would effectively block newcomers from entering the market and all you end up with is an oligarchy of incumbents.

Re: HTC's patents could lead to an ban on the next iPhone & iPad

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Post by eisa01 »

alexchamberlain wrote: post #17
bgarbiak wrote: post #6

Once Apple will announce LTE on iPhone all hell will break loose. HTC has two related patents, Samsung - 79. Source: http://www.networkworld.com/news/2012/042612-lte-patent-wars...

Nokia owns loads of patents for GSM which the standards bodies negotiated terms on; I'm sure it will happen here as well.

Apple has already settled with Nokia: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/jun/14/apple-nokia...
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