The Thunderbird Pro Add-on Repo [1] doesn't really make it clear - if I want to self host Appointment and Send, do I need to build the addon myself and change the endpoints? Or is there some kind of config?
Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update
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Re: Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update
#32I am still waiting for the announced redesign in 2022 [0] :-) [0]: https://www.omglinux.com/major-thunderbird-redesign-early-lo...
> No menus > Cryptic icons with no text > Optimised for looking good on a screenshot and not for actual user interaction No thanks :)
Someone should really make a UI where three black lines is a skewmorphic grippy surface (like you see on steps sometimes) to move the window around, just to mess with the hamburger menu devotees.
Re: Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stalwart is a mail server program, not a live email server you can pay someone money to use. One can of course use Stalwart to run a hosted email service.
https://stalw.art/managed-email/ > Let us handle the complexities of your email infrastructure with our comprehensive managed email server service.
That's fair! I didn't know they were offering that. I think it's a recent development -- it's not generally available ("contact us"), and it seems more focused at enterprise-type deployments than end-user mail that your typical Fastmail/Protonmail/etc.
But for the original question:
> Is there any email hosting out there with support for JMAP?
Stalwart really isn't a practical answer, at least yet.
Re: Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update
#34Here’s the link for anyone wanting to join the waitlist for Thundermail (the service): https://www.thundermail.com/ I really hope this takes off well and provides some funding for the Thunderbird project too. Currently the only way to monetarily support Thunderbird is through donations ( https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/donate/ ).
> [...] support Thunderbird is through donations
I doubt donations to MZLA Technologies Corporation will reach the Thunderbird project in any meaningful way.
They'll just use it to pay their executive salaries.
Re: Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update
#35I'm hoping this doesn't mean that "regular" Thunderbird will be phased out. :-/
This is about the Thundermail service - not the email client.
Re: Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update
#36I've used Thunderbird ever since it was released as a standalone mail client and like it - although it has sometimes been a rocky experience in the past. I use it now with Fastmail as my mail provider.
One thing I might be interested in is the "contacts" side of mail. In an effort to move away from too much Google, I ditched Google Contacts and host my own CardDAV using "Radicale" [0]. This works, and I also access it via DAVx on Android.
But would a CardDAV server be something worthwhile via Thundermail? Or perhaps too small a service itself? Maybe part of their scheduling tool "Appointment"? I might prefer having this hosted elsewhere than in my house.
Re: Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update
#37I've used Thunderbird ever since it was released as a standalone mail client and like it - although it has sometimes been a rocky experience in the past. I use it now with Fastmail as my mail provider. One thing I might be interested in is the "contacts" side of mail. In an effort to move away from too much Google, I ditched Google Contacts and host my own CardDAV using "Radicale" [0]. This works, and I also access i…
Is there a reason why you don’t use FastMail’s CalDav server ?
https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/1500000278342-Se...
Re: Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update
#38I'm hoping this doesn't mean that "regular" Thunderbird will be phased out. :-/
Adding these additional subscription services will never compromise the features, stability or functionality our users are accustomed to in the free Thunderbird desktop and mobile applications. These services come with real costs, especially storage and bandwidth. Charging for them helps ensure that users who benefit from these tools help cover their cost, instead of donors footing the bill.
Re: Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update
#39I am still waiting for the announced redesign in 2022 [0] :-) [0]: https://www.omglinux.com/major-thunderbird-redesign-early-lo...
I really wish we could make uniformity a trend again. GTK has basically made it a rule that applications must do whatever the heck they want.
Then next day I'm using Inkscape on a Mac. Cmd-A on the canvas selects all elements. Cmd-A in a text field selects all elements on the canvas - and whatever text was in the field, now applies to the selection, so I start typing and instantly get garbage.
How do you Select All in a text field? Ctrl-A of course! - On the only system that has a non-broken copy/paste in the terminal.
I guess props to Thunderbird for leaving some space on the title bar to drag the window around? Do not take it for granted.
Re: Thunderbird Pro August 2025 Update
#40I've used Thunderbird ever since it was released as a standalone mail client and like it - although it has sometimes been a rocky experience in the past. I use it now with Fastmail as my mail provider. One thing I might be interested in is the "contacts" side of mail. In an effort to move away from too much Google, I ditched Google Contacts and host my own CardDAV using "Radicale" [0]. This works, and I also access i…
Is there a reason why you don’t use FastMail’s CalDav server ? https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/1500000278342-Se...
And CardDAV too:
https://www.fastmail.com/blog/carddav-your-contacts-everywhe...