Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Florida lawmaker floats ban on HOAs amid growing backlash

tampabay28.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

21–30 of 186 posts

Re: Florida lawmaker floats ban on HOAs amid growing backlash

#21

Post by squigz »

reactordev wrote: post #11
bearjaws wrote: post #6

There will need to be some sort of carve out for towers, condos, townhomes etc. I cannot imagine running a building without an HOA, or some form of it. Who pays for the external repairs? Who pays for shared staff? AC units for a highrise are $2-5M, who is saving for that? This is just typical lawmaker BS, "oh I am going to do away with it", no real plan. If anything just remove the HOA bylaws that are clearly violati…

Those things are usually rentals here in Florida. HOAs are a real problem here due to the legal protection they have. They can literally take your house because your mailbox is blue.

> They can literally take your house because your mailbox is blue.

This is hard to believe. Have you got a source?

Re: Florida lawmaker floats ban on HOAs amid growing backlash

#22

Post by baq »

bearjaws wrote: post #6

There will need to be some sort of carve out for towers, condos, townhomes etc. I cannot imagine running a building without an HOA, or some form of it. Who pays for the external repairs? Who pays for shared staff? AC units for a highrise are $2-5M, who is saving for that? This is just typical lawmaker BS, "oh I am going to do away with it", no real plan. If anything just remove the HOA bylaws that are clearly violati…

A HOA for a highrise is a very different beast than a HOA for a suburban neighborhood.

That is, I agree - but the suburban SFH HOAs are shitshows.

Re: Florida lawmaker floats ban on HOAs amid growing backlash

#23

Post by paul7986 »

7174n6 wrote: post #20

This is a huge problem in Pennsylvania also, but most of the municipalities have abdicated significant maintenance responsibilities to HOAs. They refuse to take over roads, retention ponds, and common land areas requiring the HOA to cover maintenance. Snow removal from "public" roads and landscaping of "common areas" is a significant cost for HOAs. If the municipalitiies are forced to take these dutues over it's goin…

Not here in Southern York County, PA. I would not buy any house in an HOA and all houses i have bought (sold) were not in an HOA in the various towns here.

Re: Florida lawmaker floats ban on HOAs amid growing backlash

#24

Post by [deleted] »

vharuck wrote: post #10
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #4

The problem is always with the extremes. On one side, you have someone creating a car junkyard in his frontyard with a car tire bonfire behind his house and on the other, you have a random karen neigbor measuring your lawn greenness and soil humidity to see if you're not watering the lawn enough and fine your for that. Take the power from a few powertrippers and make it more democratic and you solve both issues... tu…

That sounds suspiciously like democratically enacting local government ordinances.

[deleted]

Re: Florida lawmaker floats ban on HOAs amid growing backlash

#25

Post by honeybadger1 »

i'm ready for this new revolution that breaks hoas. i was on the board of an HOA for about 2 years for the property i own in atlanta and i figured out really quickly it is a way for the eldest residents with more capitol than the youth to essentially drain the financial life from them and protect themselves from change or new ideas.

behind closed doors saying things like "that rule only exist when we don't like someone and helps us be able to get rid of them", "it's supposed to be a fair process but we just let the tenants we like and prefer know first, we will send everyone a letter so it's too late for them to respond against it".

It's a small scale dictatorship.

Re: Florida lawmaker floats ban on HOAs amid growing backlash

#26

Post by tallanvor »

The problem you'll run into is when the HOAs are responsible for common areas or shared infrastructure. In some places the HOAs are responsible for the roads and there may be a common pool, gym, or other amenities.

You'd be better off preventing HOAs from doing petty things like requiring homes to be painted certain colors and requiring them to have their books audited yearly to ensure there's no fraud or abuse going on.

Re: Florida lawmaker floats ban on HOAs amid growing backlash

#27

Post by qualeed »

As a non-American, I've always been surprised with how common HOAs are, and how over-bearing they seem.

I know that I only hear about the crazy ones because blogs about normal/good HOAs aren't going viral, but I've seen enough horror stories that if I ever moved to the US I would do my best to avoid one like the plague.

Re: Florida lawmaker floats ban on HOAs amid growing backlash

#28

Post by staticman2 »

bearjaws wrote: post #6

There will need to be some sort of carve out for towers, condos, townhomes etc. I cannot imagine running a building without an HOA, or some form of it. Who pays for the external repairs? Who pays for shared staff? AC units for a highrise are $2-5M, who is saving for that? This is just typical lawmaker BS, "oh I am going to do away with it", no real plan. If anything just remove the HOA bylaws that are clearly violati…

Not all townhomes have HOAs but it is absolutely insane to say a townhouse that does, where land is owned by the HOA, would have land redistributed to various individuals by legislature fiat.

It's even a crazy proposal for detached single family homes. Will a government official show up and decide what land is owned by each owner and record by government decree what the new property lines are?

Re: Florida lawmaker floats ban on HOAs amid growing backlash

#30

Post by [deleted] »

bearjaws wrote: post #6

There will need to be some sort of carve out for towers, condos, townhomes etc. I cannot imagine running a building without an HOA, or some form of it. Who pays for the external repairs? Who pays for shared staff? AC units for a highrise are $2-5M, who is saving for that? This is just typical lawmaker BS, "oh I am going to do away with it", no real plan. If anything just remove the HOA bylaws that are clearly violati…

[deleted]
Post reply on HN