I did ctrl+F and searched for "danger" and "risk" and neither word appears in the article.
I welcome anything that makes riding my motorcycle look like a safe hobby.
24,000-Watt Scooter Is Going for a 100 MPH Speed Record at Bonneville
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#22I did ctrl+F and searched for "danger" and "risk" and neither word appears in the article.
I think it’s well implied.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m unsure how the risk compares to an e-bike. Assuming speeds are equal I think the consequences of a crash are better on a scooter. You don’t have a crossbar between your legs to trip you as you fall, and you start in a standing position, so you’re more likely to land on your feet. Also your head and shoulders are above the cars so you’re less likely to end up under the car. Having said that I think scooter crashes…
E-bikes have relatively huge wheels. These interact with any bumbs, curbwalls, pot-holes, rocks in much more safe manner. This with stability makes them to me much safer. Still does not do much difference when crashing to someone or something or someone crashing into you.
I was on a road bike with a peloton and half of us hit a pothole that was ~25cm deep when going at 50kmh. We had a few popped tubes and a damaged (but rideable) wheel.
Good luck on a scooter. You’re a meat pencil.
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#24> the company’s engineers left Formula 1 to work on scooters “because we think electric scooters are the most important vehicle innovation of this century.”
I laughed out loud. Start up PR is a competition for “what’s the most absurd thing we can say”
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#25Scooters are just deceptively dangerous. The ease with which you can just hop on and go 20, 30, 40mph in instant is a false sense of security. There’s no drama, no warning, just pure speed standing upright, feet mere inches off the ground. Crashing on a 100mph scooter is sure to end gruesomely.
I’m unsure how the risk compares to an e-bike. Assuming speeds are equal I think the consequences of a crash are better on a scooter. You don’t have a crossbar between your legs to trip you as you fall, and you start in a standing position, so you’re more likely to land on your feet. Also your head and shoulders are above the cars so you’re less likely to end up under the car. Having said that I think scooter crashes…
After 4 crashes, I can tell you the likelihood of you dismounting a 10mph+ scooter graciously on your feet running is very, very unlikely.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m unsure how the risk compares to an e-bike. Assuming speeds are equal I think the consequences of a crash are better on a scooter. You don’t have a crossbar between your legs to trip you as you fall, and you start in a standing position, so you’re more likely to land on your feet. Also your head and shoulders are above the cars so you’re less likely to end up under the car. Having said that I think scooter crashes…
Would you want a person on an e-bike to blow past you at 40mph mere inches from your body? Because it can be a common occurrence with scooters.
It's already a common occurence with e-bikes so not much difference.
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#27> “because we think electric scooters are the most important vehicle innovation of this century.” Perhaps.. if you've never experienced urban property theft. Which is what prevents me from buying an electric bicycle. Similarly the designers of these products seem to incorporate no anti theft technology into any of their products. A scooter that goes blisteringly fast? Hardly an innovation on it's own.
You know you can bring your scooter inside, right?
In particular, not at the grocery store I shop at, they have no provision for it and they would ask me to bring it back outside if I tried. Even so it would not be more secure there than outside. There is no store security and the vehicles typically don't even have a key, alarm, or tracker built into them. They disappear easily.
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#28Scooters are just deceptively dangerous. The ease with which you can just hop on and go 20, 30, 40mph in instant is a false sense of security. There’s no drama, no warning, just pure speed standing upright, feet mere inches off the ground. Crashing on a 100mph scooter is sure to end gruesomely.
There is nothing that prevent a scooter from being build with larger wheels and a longer wheelbase. In fact that used to be how human powered scooters were built a few decades ago. It would not help the rider steer with his legs like a motorbike but this is at least what I would do if I was looking to break speed records.
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#29> the company’s engineers left Formula 1 to work on scooters “because we think electric scooters are the most important vehicle innovation of this century.” I laughed out loud. Start up PR is a competition for “what’s the most absurd thing we can say”
I actually don’t think it’s that absurd. It definitely is hype but I think e-scooters and (far more) e-bikes actually are a huge innovation in personal transport, not in pure tech but in effect on lifestyles especially when you factor in cost.
I have a cargo e-bike I use as my daily driver, taking the kids to school, picking up groceries etc. If they didn’t exist I’d probably have to pay for (and deal with) a car. A lot of food delivery drivers are on e-bikes. If governments fully embraced them they could change the way a lot of cities look.
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#30The most obvious comparison is an ebike, which would be superior in every way except one: portability. Where I live these scooters are popular, and people bring them in elevators and park them inside.
This is a real issue: bike parking is insufficient and insecure from theft in many cities. Plus, you need to charge it somewhere, and bringing a conventional bike to an apartment is often prohibitive. These make scooters much more attractive in practice than they otherwise should be.
To me, a foldable bike (with larger wheels and a seat) and a moderately sized battery pack seems like a better compromise between safety and convenience.