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Re: Adding my home electricity uptime to status.href.cat

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Post by binwiederhier »

fusionadvocate wrote: post #8
fanatic2pope wrote: post #6

I have a home server that is on 24x7 protected by a UPS. The UPS monitoring daemon (nut) provides a hook for calling a script when its status changes, so I have it push a high priority notification to my phone via ntfy whenever it goes on battery or off battery. I also have it broadcast on mqtt so that in the future I can have a dedicated daemon that will collect stats and take other actions that aren't really approp…

How does ntfy compares to Pushover?

Disclaimer: I am the ntfy maintainer. Pleasantly surprised to be mentioned, hehe.

Pushover is an amazing tool and works well. In my obviously biased opinion though, I think that ntfy has a ton more features than Pushover and is fully open source. You can self host all aspects of it or you can use the hosted version on ntfy.sh for free, without signups, or pay for higher limits.

I suggest you try out ntfy;-)

Re: Adding my home electricity uptime to status.href.cat

#32

Post by joezydeco »

binwiederhier wrote: post #31
fusionadvocate wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does ntfy compares to Pushover?

Disclaimer: I am the ntfy maintainer. Pleasantly surprised to be mentioned, hehe. Pushover is an amazing tool and works well. In my obviously biased opinion though, I think that ntfy has a ton more features than Pushover and is fully open source. You can self host all aspects of it or you can use the hosted version on ntfy.sh for free, without signups, or pay for higher limits. I suggest you try out ntfy;-)

I use ntfy for a whole bunch of personal projects. THANK YOU for keeping this service up and running.

Re: Adding my home electricity uptime to status.href.cat

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Post by Nextgrid »

fanatic2pope wrote: post #14
sugarpimpdorsey wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I also have it broadcast on mqtt so that in the future I can have a dedicated daemon that will collect stat mqtt? How many Docker containers do you have running to track UPS voltage? I keep forgetting SNMP is not "web scale" and only for greybeards on a minimum of 3+ prescription medications.

LOL, docker for running mosquitto at home? Who does that?

Docker is effectively just a packaging format on Linux - it's not a VM (unlike on Windows/Mac where running Docker involves running a hidden Linux VM on which containers are scheduled). So I don't see why you wouldn't use it if it makes things easier (like not having to worry about distro specifics, since there is generally one canonical Docker image for major pieces of software)?

Re: Adding my home electricity uptime to status.href.cat

#34

Post by baby_souffle »

OptionOfT wrote: post #30

I was checking today how expose my electricity meter within Home-Assistant. My electricity reader supports ZigBee. My provider knows minute by minute my consumption, yet only providers it on THEIR website, in a way that is useless to me.

Assuming you’re talking about the same thing that PG&E does, it’s technically only zigbee at the transport layer. The power/utility aspect is all very different and relies on crypto/keys that are not trivial to get.

You will not be able to just point the radio in your zigbee stick at your meter. As far as I know, the only device that is even blessed with the keys to do this is the Rainforest/Eagle device. You _still_ have to get permission from your utility, though. PG&E has a web page where you plug in the MAC for the radio and submit it. Only some customers on some rate plans are allowed to access this.

I gave up and went with a power monitor that’s installed in the main breaker box. It uses CT clamps on each circuit to give very accurate and timely readings.

Re: Adding my home electricity uptime to status.href.cat

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Post by ghotli »

sugarpimpdorsey wrote: post #12
fanatic2pope wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Complicated? It's a 10 line shell script and a single configuration item in the nut config.

> I also have it broadcast on mqtt so that in the future I can have a dedicated daemon that will collect stat mqtt? How many Docker containers do you have running to track UPS voltage? I keep forgetting SNMP is not "web scale" and only for greybeards on a minimum of 3+ prescription medications.

The way you wrote this and your previous comment above led me to believe your account is new. I checked it, 74 days at time of writing. I get the impression you haven't read the guidelines here. I like this place as it is generally civil discourse and have no qualms being the person that points you to the "In Comments" section of the guidelines.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Be kind, rewind.

Re: Adding my home electricity uptime to status.href.cat

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Post by OptionOfT »

baby_souffle wrote: post #34
OptionOfT wrote: post #30

I was checking today how expose my electricity meter within Home-Assistant. My electricity reader supports ZigBee. My provider knows minute by minute my consumption, yet only providers it on THEIR website, in a way that is useless to me.

Assuming you’re talking about the same thing that PG&E does, it’s technically only zigbee at the transport layer. The power/utility aspect is all very different and relies on crypto/keys that are not trivial to get. You will not be able to just point the radio in your zigbee stick at your meter. As far as I know, the only device that is even blessed with the keys to do this is the Rainforest/Eagle device. You _still_…

Clamps would work, or the optical connection. But unsure if that's disabled.

I'll call APS (Arizona) tomorrow to see what is possible.

Re: Adding my home electricity uptime to status.href.cat

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Post by binwiederhier »

joezydeco wrote: post #32
binwiederhier wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disclaimer: I am the ntfy maintainer. Pleasantly surprised to be mentioned, hehe. Pushover is an amazing tool and works well. In my obviously biased opinion though, I think that ntfy has a ton more features than Pushover and is fully open source. You can self host all aspects of it or you can use the hosted version on ntfy.sh for free, without signups, or pay for higher limits. I suggest you try out ntfy;-)

I use ntfy for a whole bunch of personal projects. THANK YOU for keeping this service up and running.

I love hearing that. Anything worth sharing? I love hearing how people use it. My favorite one is the guy protecting his apple tree from thieves by adding a camera and motion sensor and then sending himself a notification with the picture to catch the apple thief.

Re: Adding my home electricity uptime to status.href.cat

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Post by baby_souffle »

OptionOfT wrote: post #36
baby_souffle wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming you’re talking about the same thing that PG&E does, it’s technically only zigbee at the transport layer. The power/utility aspect is all very different and relies on crypto/keys that are not trivial to get. You will not be able to just point the radio in your zigbee stick at your meter. As far as I know, the only device that is even blessed with the keys to do this is the Rainforest/Eagle device. You _still_…

Clamps would work, or the optical connection. But unsure if that's disabled. I'll call APS (Arizona) tomorrow to see what is possible.

I got curious, dug through my notes.

> Zigbee SE

is the official name for the standard. Good luck w/ your Utility Company.

> Clamps would work, or the optical connection. But unsure if that's disabled.

If the optical connection isn't disabled, I'd go that route. Clamps are a _pain_ if the space is cramped or the installer did a poor job of keeping things tidy. The upside to clamps is that you get per-circuit and in real time. If you have a dedicated circuit for big appliances, integrating the clamp into Home Assistant is a cheap way to get a "is the dishwasher done?" signal, for example.

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Post by joezydeco »

binwiederhier wrote: post #37
joezydeco wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use ntfy for a whole bunch of personal projects. THANK YOU for keeping this service up and running.

I love hearing that. Anything worth sharing? I love hearing how people use it. My favorite one is the guy protecting his apple tree from thieves by adding a camera and motion sensor and then sending himself a notification with the picture to catch the apple thief.

I have a few things. One is home security, I get basic notifications when something is in the driveway. I'm working on getting Frigate running to hopefully give me the names or license plates of people when they arrive.

I also have one tied to a manufacturing database at my company. When a batch of products rolls off the line I get an updated count of units made. Kind of a way to know production systems are running and there are no problems at the work cells.

I also made a rickety-ass system that scrapes the local commuter rail API and fires off a notification when one of my trains is late or cancelled. That's been pretty helpful. The rail company has a Twitter account, but I don't go there anymore. So I rolled my own.

ntfy makes this all incredibly easy. I love it.

Re: Adding my home electricity uptime to status.href.cat

#40

Post by bcraven »

GloriousKoji wrote: post #19
black_puppydog wrote: post #3

I've seen the John Oliver videos and all, so I know this comes as a surprise to no-one but... the US needs to get its act together and build some actual infrastructure. I've heard lots of encouraging stories on the Volts podcast about it, too. Not enough, not fast enough, from what I understand. I'm 38 and I've had power go out in my house for lots of reasons, but all of them came down to me blowing a fuse somehow. I…

I live in the 3rd "wealthiest" county in the United States. The combined market cap of headquartered companies here total over 10 trillion dollars. I can't install solar panels and I can't be bothered to buy house batteries so I've only had power 98.6% of the time last year. I've lost hope. In theory it can be done but it feels something on the same order as setting foot on the moon again. We have the technology and…

"Losing hope" after saying you "can't be bothered" to buy batteries feels very self-inflicted.
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