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Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears

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Post by whatevertrevor »

ericd wrote: post #480
benterix wrote: post #290

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It's a cliche but people really underestimate and try to downplay the role of luck[0]. [0] https://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/beautiful-minds/the-...

Ability vastly increases your luck surface area. A single poker hand has a lot of luck, and even a game, but over long periods, ability starts to strongly differentiate peoples' results.

Except you can play hundreds of thousands of poker hands in your lifetime, but only have time/energy/money to start a handful of businesses.

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Post by hollerith »

esaym wrote: post #552
tombert wrote: post #376

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Today I learned that Sears founded Prodigy! Amazing how far that company has fallen; they were sort of a force to be reckoned with in the 70's and 80's with Craftsman and Allstate and Discover and Kenmore and a bunch of other things, and now they're basically dead as far as I can tell.

There were quite a few small ISP's in the 1990's. Even Bill Gothard[0] had one. [0] https://web.archive.org/web/19990208003742/http://characterl...

Prodigy predates ISPs (internet service providers). Before the web had matured a little in 1993 the internet was too technically challenging to interest most consumers except maybe for email, and Prodigy was formed in 1984 -- and although it offered email, it was walled-garden email: a Prodigy user could not exchange email with the internet till the mid-1990s at which time Prodigy might have become an ISP for a few years before going out of business.

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Post by epolanski »

quantified wrote: post #521
epolanski wrote: post #417

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> A couple of years ago, I asked a financial investment person about AI as a trick question. Why do you assume this people know any better than average Joe on the street? Study after study demonstrates they can't even keep up with the market benchmarks, how would they be any wiser to tell you what's a fad or not.

I think the point of the question was to differentiate this person from the average Jane on the Street.

But half the Janes will hold similar views and positions.

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Post by byyoung3 »

Capricorn2481 wrote: post #252
willsmith72 wrote: post #208

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yes, because meta has no incentive to act like there's no bubble

So it's not clickbait, even though the headline does not reflect the contents of the article, because you believe the headline is plausible? I think AI is a bubble, but there's nothing in here that indicates they have frozen hiring or that Zuckerberg is cautious of a bubble. Sounds like they are spending even more money per researcher.

"there's nothing in here that indicates they have frozen hiring or that Zuckerberg is cautious of a bubble"

That's what makes it clickbait my friend

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Post by echelon »

neaden wrote: post #510
echelon wrote: post #415

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You're looking at individual generations. These tools aren't for casual users expecting to 1-shot things. The value is in having a director, editor, VFX compositor pick and choose from amongst the outputs. Each generation is a single take or simulation, and you're going to do hundreds or thousands. You sift through that and explore the latent space, and that's where you find your 5-person Pixar. Human curated AI is a…

Is there any example of an AI generated film like this that is actually coherent? I've seen a couple short ones that are basically just vibe based non-linear things.

I recommend following specific artists rather than the medium as a whole.

Anything by sketch comedian Carter Jay Allen:

https://www.youtube.com/@OfficialArtCraftStudios/videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4NFXGMuwpY - Marvel parody

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAAiiKteM-U - DC parody

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tii9uF0nAx4 - here's him compositing real life actors with AI.

"Bots in the Hall", a fairly prolific Hollywood film and TV writer who wants to remain unnamed:

https://www.youtube.com/@BotsInTheHall/videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAQWRBCt_5E - "Paywall Sphinx" is pretty good.

"Meta Puppet", who works for one of the big AI studios,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtPcpWvAEt0 - "Plastic" doesn't look great, but it keeps getting crazier as you watch it

https://www.metapuppet.ai/

Some of the festival winners purposely stay away from talking since AI voices and lipsync are terrible, eg. "Poof" by the infamous "Pizza Later" (who is responsible for "Pepperoni Hug Spot") :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_SgA6ymPuc

"Talk Boys", who only posts on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/user/talkboys/

https://www.reddit.com/r/aivideo/comments/1ime5m8/birdwatche...

Marcos Higueras, an animator fully embracing AI:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCZC6XmEmK0

Most of the professional AI usage is still winding up in commercial use cases where you don't even know it's been used at all.

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Post by Aurornis »

taytus wrote: post #430
gdbsjjdn wrote: post #158

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I'm sure everyone is doing just fine financially, but I think it's common knowledge that these kind of comp packages are usually a mix of equity and cash earned out over multiple years with bonuses contingent on milestones, etc. The eye-popping top-line number is insane but it's also unlikely to be fully realized.

>I'm sure everyone is doing just fine financially They are rich. Nobody is offered $100M+ comp if you are not already top 1% talent

$100mm comp packages are more like top 0.0001% to 0.00001% compensation.

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Post by Aurornis »

krona wrote: post #153
TrackerFF wrote: post #53

I really do wonder if any of those rock star $100m++ hires managed to get a 9-figure sign-on bonus, or if the majority have year(s) long performance clauses. Imagine being paid generational wealth, and then the house of cards comes crashing down a couple of months later.

Taking rockstar players 'off the pitch' is the best way second-rate competitors can neutralize their opponents' advantage.

Nobody is paying $10mm to $100mm comp packages to bench people.

They want an ROI. Taking them away from competitors is a side bonus.

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Post by baby »

iphone_elegance wrote: post #446
JKCalhoun wrote: post #234

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Sorry, I was in the metaverse just now. I took my headset off though — could you please repeat that?

the metaverse push is the perfect analogy cool fun concepts/technology fucked by the worlds most boring people who only have desire to dominate markets and attention.. god forbid anything happen slowly/gradually without it being about them

Fucked? Have you tried the latest Quest3 experience? It would be nowhere near this if it was not for Meta and other big corps.

Second, did you see the amount of fun content on the store? It's insane. People who are commenting on the Quest have obviously never even opened the app store there.

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