Unmasking the Privacy Risks of Apple Intelligence
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Unmasking the Privacy Risks of Apple Intelligence
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#2Frida looks like such a cool tool
I wish I had some time to play with it
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#3Apple already slurps everything you do with their "privacy proxy" services, so what more risk do you want? Apple defaults for forwarding all dns and web pages via their proxies, they just can't seem to figure out what to do with it.
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#4The concerns here are valid but the fact the authors label this being about Apple Intelligence and Private Cloud Compute really devalues their credibility in general.
Siri doesn’t have any of the new AI features, the prompts they’re using have been around for years, and private cloud compute has always been about Apple Intelligence generative features.
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#5doesn't disable Siri
"Siri is collecting all your data!"
insert company advertisement
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#6Apple already slurps everything you do with their "privacy proxy" services, so what more risk do you want? Apple defaults for forwarding all dns and web pages via their proxies, they just can't seem to figure out what to do with it.
If you're talking about apple private relay, they're only proxying your packets, not intercepting any TLS connections. Therefore it's a bit misleading to characterize that as "Apple already slurps everything you do".
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#7The concerns here are valid but the fact the authors label this being about Apple Intelligence and Private Cloud Compute really devalues their credibility in general. Siri doesn’t have any of the new AI features, the prompts they’re using have been around for years, and private cloud compute has always been about Apple Intelligence generative features.
They also end it with trying to sell their service around AI which further devalues it, and even trying to give it a name like "AppleStorm".
I think some of the points are valid, but I think the over emphasis on Siri vs Private Cloud is massively overblown. That to me is just the nature of a transition like this and eventually more if Siri will likely fall under "Apple Intelligence" since it makes sense that they would have a single platform on the backend.
Then there is this header:
> "End-to-End Encryption? I’m Not Sure"
Well.. it is still end to end encrypted. Nothing about using Siri to dictate it changes that since you know... your on one of the ends. It is like saying that me taking a screenshot of the conversation somehow broke E2E.
That isn't to say that the concern here is not valid, but there are so many examples of things being twisted and manipulated to get you to use their product that I have a hard time really understanding what is an issue and what isn't.
Like ok you made an app using SiriKit using Apple's recommended settings (which may be recommended for a reason). But do you have the ability to have them not go to apple's servers if you configure it a certain way... it seems the author just ended with "Well it happens when I made this app" and never looked further.
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#8Apple already slurps everything you do with their "privacy proxy" services, so what more risk do you want? Apple defaults for forwarding all dns and web pages via their proxies, they just can't seem to figure out what to do with it.
If apple can figure out how to carve out a privacy/individual-focused ai model that avoids the classic centralized data-harvest/training they could runaway with a large portion of the market.
So many people understand the benefits ai can bring to our lives with automations, search, etc but so many are also aware of the dangers lurking beneath the surface and causes anti-ai sentiment (for good reason).
They can be mutually exclusive but aren't generally.
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#9I'm somewhat disappointed that the authors did not realize that apple-relay.cloudflare.com is not PCC, but is publicly known to be part of iCloud Private Relay.
That made me immediately think that there were other parts of the article which were not properly investigated, and likely a fair bit of sensationalization.
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#10Apple already slurps everything you do with their "privacy proxy" services, so what more risk do you want? Apple defaults for forwarding all dns and web pages via their proxies, they just can't seem to figure out what to do with it.
> they just can't seem to figure out what to do with it.
That's the funny thing about Siri. It has since Day 1 insisted on being exclusively online-only, processing on the server - even for commands that the pre-Siri Voice Control could do fully locally on an iPhone 3Gs such as "Call Steve" or "Turn Wi-Fi on"
That decision always surprised me, and it's surprising that Siri's never improved given that unlike Apple Intelligence it is not limited to on-device nor to PCC.
For all the scorn directed lately at the "Apple Intelligence" team for not shipping anything they promised, I have to hand it to JG's team for at least building a local processing capability plus having PCC instead of just one server-side thing and a "Trust Me Bro" like Siri.
If we're lucky, they'll build new Siri stuff from scratch using local + PCC, and finally push the old Siri stuff into the scrapyard where it belongs.