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CloudFlare's Super Bot Fight Mode completely killed the surge in bot traffic for my large forum.
And added captchas to every user with an adblock or sensible privacy settings.
AI crawlers, fetchers are blowing up websites; Meta, OpenAI are worst offenders
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#52If all you're concerned about is server load, wouldn't it be better to just offer a tar file containing all of your pages they can download instead? The models are months out of date, so a monthly dumb would surely satisfy them. There could even be some coordination for this.
They're going to crawl anyway. We can either cooperate or turn it into some weird dark market with bad externalities like drugs.
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#53Re: AI crawlers, fetchers are blowing up websites; Meta, OpenAI are worst offenders
#54Place alongside https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44962529 "Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?". This is why. AI is going to damage society not in fancy sci-fi ways but by centralizing profit made at the expense of everyone else on the internet, who is then forced to erect boundaries to protect themselves, worsening the experience for the rest of the public. Who also have to pay higher…
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#55I wonder how much of the rapid expansion of datacenters is from trying to support bot traffic.
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The second I get hit with bot traffic that makes my server heat up, I would just slam some aggressive anti bot stuff infront. Then you, my friend, are getting nothing with your fancy AI agent.
I've never ran any public-facing servers, so maybe I'm missing the experience of your frustration. But mine, as a "consumer" is wanting clean answers, like what you'd expect when asking your own employee for information.
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And added captchas to every user with an adblock or sensible privacy settings.
How would you suggest that such users prove they're not a crawler?
What's wrong with crawlers? That's how google finds you, and people find you on google.
Just put some sensible request limits per hour per ip, and be done.
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#58My book discovery website shepherd.com is getting hammered every day by AI crawlers (and crashing often)... my security lists in CloudFlare are ridiculous and the bots are getting smarter. I wish there were a better way to solve this.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
How would you suggest that such users prove they're not a crawler?
Why would they have to? What's wrong with crawlers? That's how google finds you, and people find you on google. Just put some sensible request limits per hour per ip, and be done.
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#60Maybe they are paying big bucks for people who are actually very bad at their jobs?
Why would the CEOs tolerate that? Do they think it's a profitable/strategic thing to get away with, rather than a sign of incompetence?
When subtrees of the org chart don't care that they are very bad at their jobs, harmed parties might have to sue to get the company to stop.