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Home Depot sued for 'secretly' using facial recognition at self-checkouts

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I'm paid in shorter checkout times for working at self checkout.

I have yet to encounter a self-checkout system competent enough to actually speed up the experience.

They are individually slow but highly multithreaded. The single cashier that stores hire these days may have a 10% higher clock speed, but their queue length is high.

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Guessing is a great method of directing criminal justice policy.

Anecdotally, I had a Hispanic friend once who had been a professional thief (not when I knew him but before). His grandfather had won the lottery so he had a guaranteed income, but he did it for fun and because that’s what the cool people did.

Do professional thieves shoplift? That's odd when you think about the risk/reward typically involved.

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I am of the firm opinion that if big corps want to outsource their labor to me, the customer, then it is my right to treat myself to a few free items here and there as compensation for the work being done. If you don't want that to happen, give cashiers their jobs back, you greedy bastards.

your compensation is speed, you get to go home faster. Is that not enough?

I don't condone theft... but I do remember a day before self checkouts existed, and stores had to hire enough cashiers to be faster than their competitors. Those dozens of checkout lanes at the front of big-box stores weren't always decorative, they used to all be staffed during busy periods.

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Guessing is a great method of directing criminal justice policy.

Anecdotally, I had a Hispanic friend once who had been a professional thief (not when I knew him but before). His grandfather had won the lottery so he had a guaranteed income, but he did it for fun and because that’s what the cool people did.

Growing up in a rural area with literally nothing fun to do except sit at home and play games basically, me and my friends didn't shoplift and do other shitty stuff because we couldn't afford it or to earn money, but because we were bored and looking for any type of excitement. I'm sure we aren't alone in that.

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What do you mean "this just doesn't work"? You do understand that an overwhelming majority of crime and overall anti social behavior is done by a tiny percentage of people. Remove those people and you spare the rest of us. For instance, the number of prisoners that have had 15 or more prior arrests is over 26%. You can just have a 15 strikes and you're out policy and make a huge impact. Once these bad actors are out…

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I think another framework is blank slatism.

For instance, you can look at two countries and if one country has a higher prison population, that country over polices because every country and its people should have the same criminality level because all cultures and people are identical.

I remember feeling great shame that the US had such a high imprisonment rate. This led to a big decrease in state prison population and things like cashless bail and letting people go to basically like the stats. We need to get back to basics and remove people that are destructive and stop overanalyzing things

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Yea, where’s the theft of my time and labor for now performing part of your business transaction process you should be performing by hiring staff to check me out. You don’t want to pay people to do that and put yourself in a higher theft situation, then you haggle the customer even more by treating them like a criminal. I had one of these happen at a self checkout the other day where the system did object tracking an…

> Yea, where’s the theft of my time and labor for now performing part of your business transaction process you should be performing by hiring staff to check me out. I've seen this sentiment in recent years, but with respect to time, self-checkout was always faster than human cashiers. You didn't need to wait while the cashiers did procedures like counting the money in the drawer and waiting for a supervisor to sign-o…

FWIW I have never encountered or even heard about a limit for self checkout here in Denmark.

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Don't people dodge these cameras? When I used a credit card at home depot self checkout I was asked if I wanted to have the receipt sent to a specific email address I entered previously online. Creepy. So I started using cash only. Last year I went to get some low voltage wire. I walked for several aisles in both directions to find someone to open the cage. Not a soul. So I reached behind the cage and pulled it out,…

>When I went to my car (parked far away of course) there was a police car hanging out right next to it. Nothing further happened, but all too coincidental. I think you're being paranoid.

The location where my car was parked was remote. There is no explanation for the proximity of his idling vehicle.

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When they were first rolled out you had to weigh everything or get a person to come over _per item_ ... It was total Insanity.

Target and Aldi don't use a scale. Costco does, but I bet it works better for Costco because they carry much less items so weights are more unique? HyVee actually removed all self-checkouts. This sucks because they had awesome self-checkouts with conveyor belts.

I bet it works better for Costco because they don't stock any items with weights low enough not to be registered by the scale.

Also, the last time I went to my local Costco, you were no longer permitted to check yourself out at the self-checkouts. They didn't remove them, but they had started using them as cashier-staffed checkouts.

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I'm pretty sick of misguided/enthusiastic Loss Prevention people, and these digital systems amplify their hijinks. The most conspicuous one recently was at one upscale grocery chain within the last year. There was what I took to be a dedicated LP person who seemed to be lurking behind the self-checkouts, to watch me specifically, and I stood there until he went away. Then, as I was checking out, this employee came up…

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Glad to hear you love laws, you can start with wage theft: comparable in scale, basically unenforced

Re: Home Depot sued for 'secretly' using facial recognition at self-checkouts

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> Yea, where’s the theft of my time and labor for now performing part of your business transaction process you should be performing by hiring staff to check me out. I've seen this sentiment in recent years, but with respect to time, self-checkout was always faster than human cashiers. You didn't need to wait while the cashiers did procedures like counting the money in the drawer and waiting for a supervisor to sign-o…

FWIW I have never encountered or even heard about a limit for self checkout here in Denmark.

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