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Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by TheDong »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #321
overfeed wrote: post #298

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> The bots will eventually be indistinguishable from humans Not until they get issued government IDs they won't! Extrapolating from current trends, some form of online ID attestation (likely based on government-issued ID[1]) will become normal in the next decade, and naturally, this will be included in the anti-bot arsenal. It will be up to the site operator to trust identities signed by the Russian government. 1. De…

How does this work, though? We can't just have "send me a picture of your ID" because that is pointlessly easy to spoof - just copy someone else's ID. So there must be some verification that you, the person at the keyboard, is the same person as that ID identifies. The UK is rapidly finding out that that is extremely difficult to do reliably. Video doesn't really work reliably on all cases, and still images are too e…

We almost all have IC Chip readers in our pocket (our cell phones), so if the government issues a card that has a private key embedded in it, akin to existing GnuPG SmartCards, you can use your phone to sign an attestation of your personhood.

In fact, Japan already has this in the form of "My Number Card". You go to a webpage, the webpage says "scan this QR code, touch your phone to your ID card, and type in your pin code", and doing that is enough to prove the the website that you're a human. You can choose to share name/birthday/address, and it's possible to only share a subset.

Robots do not get issued these cards. The government verifies your human-ness when they issue them. Any site can use this system, not just government sites.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by creatonez »

efilife wrote: post #203
Lammy wrote: post #175

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Can somebody please explain why was this comment flagged to death? I seem to be missing something

Well, it's both complete misinformation and attempts to tie a reputable open source project to an unrelated harassment and stalking website.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by creatonez »

bogwog wrote: post #56

I wonder if the best solution is still just to create link mazes with garbage text like this: https://blog.cloudflare.com/ai-labyrinth/ It won't stop the crawlers immediately, but it might lead to an overhyped and underwhelming LLM release from a big name company, and force them to reassess their crawling strategy going forward?

Crawlers already know how to stop crawling recursive or otherwise excessive/suspicious content. They've dealt with this problem long before LLM-related crawling.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by thayne »

eqvinox wrote: post #412

TFA — and most comments here — seem to completely miss what I thought was the main point of Anubis: it counters the crawler's "identity scattering"/sybil'ing/parallel crawling. Any access will fall into either of the following categories: - client with JS and cookies. In this case the server now has an identity to apply rate limiting to, from the cookie. Humans should never hit it, but crawlers will be slowed down im…

You don't necessarily need JS, you just need something that can detect if Anybis is used and complete the challenge.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by trenchpilgrim »

elcritch wrote: post #393
loloquwowndueo wrote: post #376

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That wouldn’t have the fallback rate-limiting functionality. It’s too cheap.

It’s too cheap as a rate limiter as it is if you read TFA.

That's a configurable setting.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by thayne »

I can't find any documentation that says Anubis does this, (although it seems odd to me that it wouldn't, and I'd love a reference) but it could do the following:

1. Store the nonce (or some other identifier) of each jwt it passes out in the data store

2. Track the number or rate of requests from each token in the data store

3. If a token exceeds the rate limit threshold, revoke the token (or do some other action, like tarpit requests with that token, or throttle the requests)

Then if a bot solves the challenge it can only continue making requests with the token if it is well behaved and doesn't make requests too quickly.

It could also do things like limit how many tokens can be given out to a single ip address at a time to prevent a single server from generating a bunch of tokens.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by rustystump »

creatonez wrote: post #410
sugarpimpdorsey wrote: post #93

Every time I see one of these I think it's a malicious redirect to some pervert-dwelling imageboard. On that note, is kernel.org really using this for free and not the paid version without the anime? Linux Foundation really that desperate for cash after they gas up all the BMW's?

Huh, why would they need the unbranded version? The branded version works just fine. It's usually easier to deploy ordinary open source software than it is for software that needs to be licensed, because you don't need special download pages or license keys. If it makes sense for an organization to donate to a project they rely on, then they should just donate. No need to debrand if it's not strictly required, all th…

If i saw an anime pic show up, thatd be a flag. I only know of Anubis’ existence and use of anime from hn.

It is only trusted by a small subset of people who are in the know. It is not about “anime bad” but that a large chunk of the population isnt into it for whatever reason.

I love anime but it can also be cringe. I find this cringe as it seems many others do too.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by fengshui99 »

tomhow wrote: post #361
fengshui99 wrote: post #303

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Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by ChocolateGod »

I have a S24 (flagship of 2024) and Anubis often takes 10-20 seconds to complete, that time is going to add up if more and more sites adopt it, leaning to a worse browsing experience and wasted battery life.

Meanwhile AI farms will just run their own nuclear reactors eventually and be unaffected.

I really don't understand why someone thought this was a good idea, even if well intentioned.

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