Oh I saw this recently on ffmpeg's site, pretty fun
Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?
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Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?
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>No. A human sees a 10x slowdown. For the actual request, yes. For the complete experience of using the website not so much, since a human will take at least several seconds to process the information returned. >And the scraper paid one 1/1000000th of a dollar. (The scraper does not care about latency.) The point need not be to punish the client, but to throttle it. The scraper may not care about taking longer, but t…
But now I have to wait several seconds before I can even start to process the webpage! It's like the internet suddenly became slow again overnight.
Yeah, well, bad actors harm everyone. Such is the nature of things.
Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's crazy ( especially considering anime is more popular now than ever; netflix alone is making billions a year on anime) that people see a completely innocent little anime picture and immediately think "pervent-dwelling imageboard".
Even if the images aren’t the kind of sexualized (or downright pornographic) content this implies… having cutesy anime girls pop up when a user loads your site is, at best, wildly unprofessional. (Dare I say “cringe”?) For something as serious and legit as kernel.org to have this, I do think it’s frankly shocking and unacceptable.
never forget the Ponies CV of an ML guy
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/09/03/my-little-pony-r...
Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?
#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even if the images aren’t the kind of sexualized (or downright pornographic) content this implies… having cutesy anime girls pop up when a user loads your site is, at best, wildly unprofessional. (Dare I say “cringe”?) For something as serious and legit as kernel.org to have this, I do think it’s frankly shocking and unacceptable.
Isn't the mascot/logo for the Linux kernel a cartoon penguin?
I have a plushy tux at home (about 30cm high). So now I'm in the same league as the people with anime pillows?
Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's more likely that the project itself will disappear into irrelevance as soon as AI scrapers bother implementing the PoW (which is trivial for them, as the post explains) or figure out that they can simply remove "Mozilla" from their user-agent to bypass it entirely.
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> Fuck AI scrapers, and fuck all this copyright infringement at scale.
Yes, fuck them. Problem is Anubis here is not doing the job. As the article already explains, currently Anubis is not adding a single cent to the AI scrappers' costs. For Anubis to become effective against scrappers, it will necessarily have to become quite annoying for legitimate users.
Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
A proof of work challenge does not throttle the scrapers at steady state. All it does is add latency and cost to the first request.
Hypothetically, the cookie could be used to track the client and increase the difficulty if its usage becomes abusive.
Yes, and then we can avoid the entire issue. It's patronizing for people to assume users wouldn't notice a 10x or 50x slowdown. You can tell those who think that way are not web developers, as we know that every millisecond has a real, nonlinear fiscal cost.
Of course, then the issue becomes "what is the latency and cost incurred by a scraper to maintain and load balance across a large list of IPs". If it turns out that this is easily addressed by scrapers then we need another solution. Perhaps, the user's browser computes tokens in the background and then serves them to sites alongside a certificate or hash (to prevent people from just buying and selling these tokens).
We solve the latency issue by moving it off-line, and just accept the tradeoff that a user is going to have to spend compute periodically in order to identify themselves in an increasingly automated world.
Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's more likely that the project itself will disappear into irrelevance as soon as AI scrapers bother implementing the PoW (which is trivial for them, as the post explains) or figure out that they can simply remove "Mozilla" from their user-agent to bypass it entirely.
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Don’t forget signed attestations from “user probably has skin in the game” cloud providers like iCloud (already live in Safari and accepted by Cloudflare, iirc?) — not because they identify you but because abusive behavior will trigger attestation provider rate limiting and termination of services (which, in Apple’s case, includes potentially a console kill for the associated hardware). It’s not very popular to discuss at HN but I bet Anubis could add support for it regardless :)
Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sadly, touching the user-agent header more or less instantly makes you uniquely identifiable. Browser fingerprinting works best against people with unique headers. There's probably millions of people using an untouched safari on iPhone. Once you touch your user-agent header, you're likely the only person in the world with that fingerprint.
I wouldn’t think the intention is to s/Mozilla// but to select another well-known UA string.
The string I use in my extension is "anubis is crap". I took it from a different FF extension that had been posted in a /g/ thread about Anubis, which is where I got the idea from in the first place. I don't use other people's extensions if I can help it (because of the obvious risk), but I figured I'd use the same string in my own extension so as to be combined with users of that extension for the sake of user-agent statistics.
Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?
#149Seems like ai bots are indeed bypassing the challenge by computing it: https://social.anoxinon.de/@Codeberg/115033790447125787
That's not bypassing it, that's them finally engaging with the PoW challenge as intended, making crawling slower and more expensive, instead failing to crawl at all, which is more of a plus. This however forces servers to increase the challenge difficulty, which increases the waiting time for the first-time access.
Obviously the developer of Anubis thinks it is bypassing: https://github.com/TecharoHQ/anubis/issues/978
Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sadly, touching the user-agent header more or less instantly makes you uniquely identifiable. Browser fingerprinting works best against people with unique headers. There's probably millions of people using an untouched safari on iPhone. Once you touch your user-agent header, you're likely the only person in the world with that fingerprint.
I wouldn’t think the intention is to s/Mozilla// but to select another well-known UA string.
The UA will be compared to other data points such as screen resolution, fonts, plugins, etc. which means that you are definitely more identifiable if you change just the UA vs changing your entire browser or operating system.