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Re: Notion releases offline mode

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Post by tombert »

tequila_shot wrote: post #2

I guess for a lot of users like myself using Notion ship has sailed. Most of them have moved to Obsidian, with the new database feature of Obsidian, and it being free, I do not see why users would choose Notion over Obsidian.

Have Obsidian stopped requiring that you pay for a commercial license to use for work? I know it wasn't enforced but I think the free license limited you to personal use.

I bought a commercial license three years ago, and I don't really mind paying it, but then my job for the last year expressly forbid the use of Obsidian [1], and as such I didn't feel compelled to keep paying, though I still used it for personal stuff.

I looked at their website and it looks like the commercial license is optional now?

I don't really mind paying for it, I think it's a pretty decent notes app and I probably get more than $50/year of value out of it.

[1] I'm not 100% sure why, I think it might have been because the people doing the approvals thought that the Sync was an intrinsic to the app and they were afraid of company secrets going out.

Re: Notion releases offline mode

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Post by mmargenot »

Illniyar wrote: post #7
tequila_shot wrote: post #2

I guess for a lot of users like myself using Notion ship has sailed. Most of them have moved to Obsidian, with the new database feature of Obsidian, and it being free, I do not see why users would choose Notion over Obsidian.

I've never heard of companies using Obsidian. Notion isn't really marketed or suitable for individuals (even if their free plan says otherwise).

I use Notion extensively as an individual, but I spend a lot of time thinking about knowledge management and have accordingly tuned it pretty closely to my typical workflows. Without that initial time investment it can be overwhelming.

Re: Notion releases offline mode

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Post by j_4 »

tombert wrote: post #71
tequila_shot wrote: post #2

I guess for a lot of users like myself using Notion ship has sailed. Most of them have moved to Obsidian, with the new database feature of Obsidian, and it being free, I do not see why users would choose Notion over Obsidian.

Have Obsidian stopped requiring that you pay for a commercial license to use for work? I know it wasn't enforced but I think the free license limited you to personal use. I bought a commercial license three years ago, and I don't really mind paying it, but then my job for the last year expressly forbid the use of Obsidian [1], and as such I didn't feel compelled to keep paying, though I still used it for personal stu…

Yes.

https://obsidian.md/blog/free-for-work/

Re: Notion releases offline mode

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Post by dragonwriter »

tombert wrote: post #71
tequila_shot wrote: post #2

I guess for a lot of users like myself using Notion ship has sailed. Most of them have moved to Obsidian, with the new database feature of Obsidian, and it being free, I do not see why users would choose Notion over Obsidian.

Have Obsidian stopped requiring that you pay for a commercial license to use for work? I know it wasn't enforced but I think the free license limited you to personal use. I bought a commercial license three years ago, and I don't really mind paying it, but then my job for the last year expressly forbid the use of Obsidian [1], and as such I didn't feel compelled to keep paying, though I still used it for personal stu…

> Have Obsidian stopped requiring that you pay for a commercial license to use for work?

I don't know if they ever required that, but they certainly do not now. They encourage purchase of a commercial license, but it explicitly is not required.

From the FAQ on their pricing page:

Do I have to pay for commercial use?

No. You are not required to pay for a commercial license, however if you are using Obsidian for work in an organization we encourage you to purchase a commercial license to keep Obsidian independent and 100% user-supported.

Re: Notion releases offline mode

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Post by j45 »

Can someone report if it’s real actual offline first mode without some kind of ceremony before doing so.

I had to leave Notion far too many years ago and life is elsewhere.

Re: Notion releases offline mode

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Post by maz1b »

Offline mode is one of those features that sounds simple enough, but in reality gets pretty complex pretty fast, particularly if you want to do more meaningful capabilities or operations esp at scale.

Re: Notion releases offline mode

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Post by levmiseri »

datadrivenangel wrote: post #58
levmiseri wrote: post #45

For me one of the biggest issues with Notion (and to a smaller extent with Obsidian as well) is its ever present UI. When I write (or read) something, I don't want to see 20+ buttons scattered around distracting me from the content. IA writer got this right, but it's too local and doesn't have colab or better online sync features. Shameless plug – I'm building https://kraa.io/about that's trying to be a writing app w…

In Obsidian you can disable almost all of the UI very easily in settings.

Only the Hider plugin did 'most' of the job. But yeah, Obsidian is good with this (with plugins)

Re: Notion releases offline mode

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Post by tombert »

j_4 wrote: post #73
tombert wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have Obsidian stopped requiring that you pay for a commercial license to use for work? I know it wasn't enforced but I think the free license limited you to personal use. I bought a commercial license three years ago, and I don't really mind paying it, but then my job for the last year expressly forbid the use of Obsidian [1], and as such I didn't feel compelled to keep paying, though I still used it for personal stu…

Yes. https://obsidian.md/blog/free-for-work/

Ah, fair enough. That's actually fairly recent.

Re: Notion releases offline mode

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Post by tshaddox »

raincole wrote: post #60
tequila_shot wrote: post #2

I guess for a lot of users like myself using Notion ship has sailed. Most of them have moved to Obsidian, with the new database feature of Obsidian, and it being free, I do not see why users would choose Notion over Obsidian.

Tech-savvy people indeed do have some very interesting (while out of touch) perspectives.

I don't think Obsidian is even a major player in tech-savvy circles. I'd point to Apple Notes instead.

Re: Notion releases offline mode

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Post by hed »

c4wrd wrote: post #22
trentnix wrote: post #15

I'm a Notion fan but the lack of a native Linux app has me shopping for a replacement. Obsidian seems, from what I've seen, focused on the ability to graph notes, which I don't really care about. I want note-taking, list-making, and markdown friendly. I do want to keep Notion's ability to work in a browser and to maintain a single, accessible store of my notes. What are my options?

Obsidian's plug-in ecosystem is fantastic. I've used Obsidian for three years as a replacement for Notion, and I have never used the Graph mode. My Obsidian plugins enable automatic task synchronization with TickTick (where I manage my tasks) and allow me to set up features like templates. I strongly recommend giving it a spin. The only downside for me is the inability to use it from a web browser. This isn't a major…

What are you using to sync with TickTick?
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