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If you're running one of the popular coding agents, they can run commands in bash which is more or less access to the infinite space of tooling I myself use to do my job. I even use it to troubleshoot issues with my linux laptop that in the past I would totally have done myself, but can't be bothered. Which led to the most relatable AI moment I have encountered: "This is frustrating" - Claude Code thought, after 6 tr…
I've never seen an LLM do anything but absolutely destroy linux. So much of their data is outdated solutions.
MCP doesn't need tools, it needs code
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Re: MCP doesn't need tools, it needs code
#132Is this just code injection? It’s talking about passing Python code in that would have a Python interpreter tool. Even if you had guardrails setup that seems a little chancery, but hey this is the time of development evolution where we’re letting AI write code anyway, so why not give other people remote code execution access, because fuck it all.
Re: MCP doesn't need tools, it needs code
#133Agree on that it should be composable. Even better if MCP tooling wouldn't yield huge amounts of output that pollutes the context and the output of one can be input to the next, so indeed that may as well be code. Would be nice if there was a way for agents to work with MCPs as code, preview or debug the data flowing through them. At the moment it all seems not a mature enough solution and Id rather mount a Python sa…
Re: MCP doesn't need tools, it needs code
#134Can't wait until I can buy a H100 with a DisplayPort input and USB keyboard and mouse output and just let it figure everything out.
Re: MCP doesn't need tools, it needs code
#135I tried doing the MCP approach with about 100 tools, but the agent picks the wrong tool a lot of the time and it seems to have gotten significantly worse the more tools I added. Any ideas how to deal with this? Is it one of those unsolvable XOR-like problems maybe?
Re: MCP doesn't need tools, it needs code
#136Imagine 50 years of computer security to have articles come up on hackernews saying “what you need is to allow a black box to run arbitrary python code” :(
these people are not to be taken seriously
Re: MCP doesn't need tools, it needs code
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you're running one of the popular coding agents, they can run commands in bash which is more or less access to the infinite space of tooling I myself use to do my job. I even use it to troubleshoot issues with my linux laptop that in the past I would totally have done myself, but can't be bothered. Which led to the most relatable AI moment I have encountered: "This is frustrating" - Claude Code thought, after 6 tr…
I've never seen an LLM do anything but absolutely destroy linux. So much of their data is outdated solutions.
Edge cases are everywhere, obviously, but I don't let it run wild. I approve every command it runs.
Re: MCP doesn't need tools, it needs code
#138I agree MCP has these flaws, idk why we need MCP servers when LLMs can just connect to the existing API endpoint Started on working on an alternative protocol, which lets agents call native endpoints directly (HTTP/CLI/WebSocket) via “manuals” and “providers,” instead of spinning up a bespoke wrapper server: https://github.com/universal-tool-calling-protocol/python-ut... even connects to MCP servers if you take a loo…
1) I need an auto-binder (eg OpenAPI) or a better binding system like this UTCP is trying to be
2) I need a secure sandbox, for the system and even for the APIs (like a UAT env)
I’ve continued to make MCP servers and tools and realized (1) was a fallacy. Most APIs were not made for computers; they were made for humans to allow other humans to connect to their code.
It’s hard to explain, but it’s an ergonomic thing. An API to a database might have things like paging and filtering. The design might have to fit into a URL and you want to simplify or hide things. LLMs don’t care.
My insight was similar to this article wrt code. An LLM doesn’t need a cute API to a dataset. They can code so you don’t need to give them an API, you give them a SQL endpoint (my focus), or a Python venv, or a bash prompt.
Then akin to UTCP manuals, the user and LLM can develop tool descriptions and code helpers (in SQL, Views and stored procedures) to make them better at doing whatever they need to do. Maybe there’s a main tool description and then a supplementary user-specific one too.
So I’m taking a DuckDB, loading data and locking it down, and give a single SQL endpoint that returns a DB table in CSV. Then work with the LLMs to make tool descriptions and helpers in agentic loops.
So I think what y’all are working on is cool, but the power isn’t in the API connection itself, but how the LLM effectively uses it. But you can build that agentic-assist part into the product; or somebody wraps something around it.
Re: MCP doesn't need tools, it needs code
#139I love the optimism of this space, but fear that the "security is a sham" attitude will bite us all in the ass down the line.
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Strings are a universal interface with no dependencies. You can do anything in any language across any number of files. Any other abstraction heavily restricts what you can accomplish. Also, LLMs aren't trained on ASTs, they're trained on strings -- just like programmers.
Exactly. LLMs are trained on huge amounts of bash scripts. They “know” how to use grep/awk/whatever. ASTs are, I assume, not really part of that training data. How would they know how to work well with on? LLMs are trained on what humans do to code. Yes, I assume down the road someone will train more efficient versions that can work more closely with the machine. But LLMs work as well as they do because they have a l…