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> Open Source The CC-NC-SA-4.0 license isn't an Open Source Definition compliant license, since it discriminates against a field of use (commercial applications). https://github.com/ClemensElflein/OpenMower/blob/main/LICENS... https://opensourcedefinition.org/ A reminder, open source means surrendering your monopoly over commercial exploitation: https://drewdevault.com/2021/01/20/FOSS-is-to-surrender-your...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's worth noting that the project is CC-BY-NC-SA-4.0 however it comes with a notice that other licenses are available if you content them directly. So it may not be open source under the strict definition however the project is also not staunchly anti-commercial. > Feel free to use the design in your private/educational projects, but don't try to sell the design or products based on it without getting my consent fir…

It's simply not open source. It doesn't meet the definition. It's co-opting the term to call it open source. This has been debated and settled. What people mean by open source or free software has a well agreed upon definition, and this isn't it.

Open source has been turned against us and used to build hyperscalers that effectively control modern computing.

Pure open source is also not a sustainable business model. You have to be open core or non-commercial, otherwise anyone and everyone can steal your lunch.

You're asking for the right to compete when they've given you every other single right there is. That's just not nice.

Re: OpenMower – An open source lawn mower

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When I read the title I remembered how people in the 90s at my place built their lawn mowers. It was a new thing. My father welded the frame from scrap metal with the motor from a washing machine and some tiny wheels from an old baby stroller lol. It was kind of open source, many people copied or he helped build one. Haha, served us surprisingly well for a time :)

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> Open Source The CC-NC-SA-4.0 license isn't an Open Source Definition compliant license, since it discriminates against a field of use (commercial applications). https://github.com/ClemensElflein/OpenMower/blob/main/LICENS... https://opensourcedefinition.org/ A reminder, open source means surrendering your monopoly over commercial exploitation: https://drewdevault.com/2021/01/20/FOSS-is-to-surrender-your...

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> Or WP Engine, which basically lifted WordPress wholesale and gives absolutely nothing back.

I understand (tho not agree with you) up until this point. Don’t forget Wordpress was not originally Wordpress, you would say they “basically lifted b2/cafepress wholesale and gave nothing back”. Wordpress wouldn’t exist otherwise.

Re: OpenMower – An open source lawn mower

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This is a fun project to take on. Couple years ago I built an autonomous controlled chassis onto a push reel mower (removed handles of course). It’s not as safe as the typical robot mower given they use tiny blades to trim (and reel mower will take a finger) but it’s relatively low maintenance since the blades need replacing every month or so. I opted for lidar as the reviews on RTK GPS seem pretty hit or miss and didn’t want the base antenna thingy. It works well for me and the cut quality is amazing even just running once a week.

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> Open Source The CC-NC-SA-4.0 license isn't an Open Source Definition compliant license, since it discriminates against a field of use (commercial applications). https://github.com/ClemensElflein/OpenMower/blob/main/LICENS... https://opensourcedefinition.org/ A reminder, open source means surrendering your monopoly over commercial exploitation: https://drewdevault.com/2021/01/20/FOSS-is-to-surrender-your...

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> I 100% commend CC-BY-SA-NC and other fair source licenses. These are sustainable efforts.

Funnily enough, the CC BY-SA-NC is not a fair source license, as it doesn’t include a provision for delayed open source publication. It is quite important, actually:

> DOSP ensures that if a Fair Source company goes out of business, or develops its products in an undesired direction, the community or another company can pick up and move forward. Will this be meaningful in practice? Again, time will tell. https://fair.io/about/

But I do agree with the sentiment otherwise.

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> Open Source The CC-NC-SA-4.0 license isn't an Open Source Definition compliant license, since it discriminates against a field of use (commercial applications). https://github.com/ClemensElflein/OpenMower/blob/main/LICENS... https://opensourcedefinition.org/ A reminder, open source means surrendering your monopoly over commercial exploitation: https://drewdevault.com/2021/01/20/FOSS-is-to-surrender-your...

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