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GenAI FOMO has spurred businesses to light nearly $40B on fire

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Re: GenAI FOMO has spurred businesses to light nearly $40B on fire

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There’s no question we’re in a “GenAI” bubble, the only question is how big of a smoking crater in the ground is going to be created when this thing pops. The tech isn’t going away, and is cool/useful, but from a business standpoint this whole thing looks like a dumpster fire burning next to a gasoline truck. Right now VC FOMO is the only thing stopping all that from blowing up. When that slows down buckle up.

CEOs are just salivating at the prospect of firing most of their staff and replacing them with AIs. And then you have hype men at these AI companies blowing a burning coal mine of smoke up their asses. And every month the products become even more expensive for even more incremental gains. The hype is unsustainable. How many "we will have AGI by X/X/201X" predictions have we blown past already?

> How many "we will have AGI by X/X/201X" predictions have we blown past already?

This seems wildly inaccurate.

Can you find any single such claim from any credible source? Anybody hyping up an AGI timeframe within the 2010s?

Re: GenAI FOMO has spurred businesses to light nearly $40B on fire

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Strange advice to companies that can’t figure out how to deploy AI is to not use BPO when obviously they can’t figure it out themselves. Also, I am looking at a BPO RFP right now for a huge organization and they mostly care about is how the vendor going to leverage AI to reduce their price over the term of the contract.

Re: GenAI FOMO has spurred businesses to light nearly $40B on fire

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What arrogant and cynical way of looking at business operations. You don't know how anything interesting turns out in the future. You make educated guesses and those cost money. When you run a business, everything costs money. But that is not "lighting money on fire", that is how all learning happens. If anyone thinks they have figured it all out, stop blabbering around. Short the market.

"The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain insolvent." --John Maynard Keynes Lots of people lost their shirts shorting the housing market prior to the 2008 crash. (_The Big Short_ highlights those who were successful, but plenty of people weren't.) But it was undoubtedly a bubble and there was a world-wide recession when it popped.

nitpick:

longer than you can remain "*solvent", not "insolvent"

Re: GenAI FOMO has spurred businesses to light nearly $40B on fire

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Well, at least AI is going to be better than the blockchain hype. No one knew what “blockchain” was, how it worked, or what could be used for. I had a very hard time explaining once you put something in the chain, you can’t easily pull it back out. If you wanted to verify documents, all you have to do is put a hash in a database table. Which we already had. It has exactly one purpose: prevent any single entity from c…

> No one knew what “blockchain” was, how it worked, or what could be used for. Not the blockchain itself, but the concept of an immutable, append only, tamper-proof ledger underpinning it is a very useful one in many contexts where the question of authenticity of datasets arises – the blockchain has given us a ledger database. The ledger database is more than just a hash as it also provides a cryptographic proof that…

Yes, that kind of database was so in demand, the AWS version, "Amazon Quantum Ledger Database" was hugely successful. Oh wait, it was a flop and is being shut down....

Re: GenAI FOMO has spurred businesses to light nearly $40B on fire

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No one knew what “blockchain” was, how it worked, or what could be used for. Not the blockchain itself, but the concept of an immutable, append only, tamper-proof ledger underpinning it is a very useful one in many contexts where the question of authenticity of datasets arises – the blockchain has given us a ledger database. The ledger database is more than just a hash as it also provides a cryptographic proof that…

For all that stuff, I like the blockchain implementation known as "git".

I have heard an argument for git before, and it is a viable fit for some use cases.

The problem, however, stems from the fact that the git commit history can be modified, which automatically disqualifies git in many other use cases, e.g. official government-issued documents, financial records, recognition of prior learning, and similar – anywhere where the entire, unabridged history of records is required.

Re: GenAI FOMO has spurred businesses to light nearly $40B on fire

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Well, at least AI is going to be better than the blockchain hype. No one knew what “blockchain” was, how it worked, or what could be used for. I had a very hard time explaining once you put something in the chain, you can’t easily pull it back out. If you wanted to verify documents, all you have to do is put a hash in a database table. Which we already had. It has exactly one purpose: prevent any single entity from c…

> No one knew what “blockchain” was, how it worked, or what could be used for. Not the blockchain itself, but the concept of an immutable, append only, tamper-proof ledger underpinning it is a very useful one in many contexts where the question of authenticity of datasets arises – the blockchain has given us a ledger database. The ledger database is more than just a hash as it also provides a cryptographic proof that…

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Re: GenAI FOMO has spurred businesses to light nearly $40B on fire

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Same here. We are apparently obsessed with chatbots that no one asked for. If I brought up the same idea minus the AI a couple years ago, management would have been very confused as to why I wanted to build things no one asked for. The funniest thing is that management has no idea how AI works so they're pretty much just Copilot Agents with a couple docs and a prompt. It's the most laughable shit I've ever seen. Mana…

> tossing a doc about company benefits into a bot is about the most worthless thing you could do with this tech. Hahaha, my company has spent half a year pursuing the exact same thing to the letter after one of our VPs got the idea in his head at some AI conference. Rollout kept getting pushed back because of hallucinations in testing. I'm not 100% sure at this point if he forgot he made it a top internal priority an…

Ha, same story here. We had a little demo for some people in IT and it couldn't get some of the most basic background of our company correct.

Re: GenAI FOMO has spurred businesses to light nearly $40B on fire

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Well run large companies often waste a lot, in order to (1) hedge risks of being left behind, (2) ensure they have options in the future in possible growth or new efficiency areas, and (3) to start on long learning curves for skills and capabilities that appear likely to be a baseline necessity in the long run. Bonfires of money. Predictably. Because all three of those concerns require highly speculative action to pr…

Agreed. Smug dismissal of new ideas is such a lazy shortcut to trying to look smart. I'd much rather talk to someone enthusiastic about something than someone who does nothing but sit there and say "this thing sucks" every time something happens even if person #2 is incidentally right a lot of the time.

Re: GenAI FOMO has spurred businesses to light nearly $40B on fire

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post #85
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No one knew what “blockchain” was, how it worked, or what could be used for. Not the blockchain itself, but the concept of an immutable, append only, tamper-proof ledger underpinning it is a very useful one in many contexts where the question of authenticity of datasets arises – the blockchain has given us a ledger database. The ledger database is more than just a hash as it also provides a cryptographic proof that…

Yes, that kind of database was so in demand, the AWS version, "Amazon Quantum Ledger Database" was hugely successful. Oh wait, it was a flop and is being shut down....

No snark required. Whatever the reason for discontinuing QLDB was, it has been replaced with the pgAudit[0] Postgres extension in AWS. I did look into using QLDB for a project involving the management of financial records about 4 years ago and found it to be a somewhat unwieldy to use document database.

Demand for ledger databases is strong in the government and elsewhere where compliance is a non-negotiable. Microsoft have their own on the offer[1] as well.

[0] https://www.pgaudit.org/

[1] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/relational-databases/s...

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