Shut up. You’re just standing in the way of progress. Vehicles have to be bigger in order to be safer and more deformable, and they’re even safer for pedestrians. If they take up too much space on a road, build bigger roads. You cannot miniaturize automotive safety.
'Safety Today Is a Luxury,' Giorgetto Giugiaro Says After His Crash
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#42He’s a car designer who designed a lot of famous cars in the past and now he appreciates the focus on safety in modern cars. What I appreciate is that most of the original push for safety was done to market cars to Moms. Including seat belts and other features. Another fun fact is that the safer cars become, the faster they are driven, causing more risks outside of the car than in it. In Bulgaria the newly wealthy re…
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#43I don’t know about this. Lots of luxury safety features are standard in budget cars today. Even if not standard, the dealers mostly stock vehicles with safety packages. Hyundais I see come with lane keeping and radar cruise and surround cameras and blind spot monitors and automatic braking and other stuff. These have made driving MUCH safer. For drivers and others.
The point is, those features were available to people buying S classes 15 years ago. So not only were rich people safer for those 15 years, there's still a huge subset of people that even today drive old cheaper cars instead of buying the Hyundai that has it today. There's probably a 30 year safety difference between rich and poor.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pedestrians walking around staring at their phones have made the streets less safe for pedestrians, as have drivers staring at their phones. IMO that phenomenon completely confounds any attempt at assessing real-world vehicle-pedestrian safety against older statistics.
Such a deference of responsibility. The world and the community should absolutely prioritize pedestrians. The driver operating a 5000 lb dangerous weapon should 100% be the responsible for the consequences.
Fault obviously can obviously go both ways. A large portion of pedestrians are drunk, jaywalking on highways and freeways.
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#45“ "Safety today is a luxury," writes Giugiaro. "Those who can afford a new car have a better chance of making it home alive." Well, on the plus side, today’s luxury car features are tomorrow’s standard ones. I remember getting my first Lexus in 2006 and being wowed by the backup camera, they were new and only in luxury cars. Now every car has one. It sounds deeply unfair that those with money are safer than those wit…
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#46This is why it always make me so mad about people who cry about how big vehicles are getting and why can’t we have the tiny thin dangerous vehicles from like 30 years ago instead. Shut up . You’re just standing in the way of progress. Vehicles have to be bigger in order to be safer and more deformable, and they’re even safer for pedestrians. If they take up too much space on a road, build bigger roads. You cannot min…
I'm not a specialist but I'm pretty certain that's not why cars are getting bigger and bigger. "I'll pick this X5/Land Rover SUV so it deforms easier when I hit a pedestrian" thought no one ever.
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#47This is why it always make me so mad about people who cry about how big vehicles are getting and why can’t we have the tiny thin dangerous vehicles from like 30 years ago instead. Shut up . You’re just standing in the way of progress. Vehicles have to be bigger in order to be safer and more deformable, and they’re even safer for pedestrians. If they take up too much space on a road, build bigger roads. You cannot min…
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
How? My car breaks automatically whenever there’s an obstacle behind it or in front of it.
And yet, observational data suggests that driving a huge car makes it harder for you to get injured an easier for everyone else. For example: "First off, the vitriol against large vehicles is misplaced. The larger the vehicle, the safer for its occupants". https://youtu.be/YpuX-5E7xoU?si=mNyPrDr1hUGF_AGy&t=56 "American roads are deadliest than ever for pedestrians, cyclists, and, most of all, motorcyclists". https://…
The number of car sales seems to be going down, but pedestrian deaths are increasing. Seems to imply more cars are not the issue, but less safe cars are the issue.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
[0] https://jlr.scene7.com/is/image/jlr/L663_22MY_031_US?wid=480... [1] https://jlr.scene7.com/is/image/jlr/L663_23MY_014_US?wid=480... [2] https://jlr.scene7.com/is/image/jlr/L663_23MY_025_US?wid=480...
Thanks much! However...first one works, but I get "access denied" for [1] and [2] (and I have no idea if you control that or not).
https://www.landroverusa.com/vehicles/defender/interior-gall...
(probably should have lead with that instead of just dropping direct links)
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#50The headline is misleading. Yes, a new luxury car is safer than one from 15 years ago, but both are infinitely safer than a car from the 1970s where seatbelts didn't exist and the crumple zone for the steering wheel column was your chest.