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'Safety Today Is a Luxury,' Giorgetto Giugiaro Says After His Crash

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Re: 'Safety Today Is a Luxury,' Giorgetto Giugiaro Says After His Crash

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On the other hand, newer cars have gotten more dangerous for pedestrians. Safety is indeed a luxury.

How? My car breaks automatically whenever there’s an obstacle behind it or in front of it.

> My car breaks automatically whenever there’s an obstacle behind it or in front of it.

I'm imagining the wheels pop off instantly and smoke comes out of the engine if anything gets near it.

Re: 'Safety Today Is a Luxury,' Giorgetto Giugiaro Says After His Crash

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I understand the point he's making: New cars are much safer than old cars, and the average person is driving a car that is 12 years old, while new cars are bought primarily by the wealthy. However, that seems like a natural consequence of two things that are very good for everyone. First, cars are lasting much longer than they used to, which lowers the lifetime cost of ownership. Second, cars have gotten much safer i…

I think it's a shame that we can't add new safety features into older cars.

I feel like there's very little engineering reasons why we can't, and it's mostly regulatory hurdles, that removes any economic incentives to do so.

I've recently read an article about what constitutes the right balance of regulations when it comes to aviation safety, and that while regulations have made modern planes extremely safe, overly stringent rules are also preventing planes from adopting modern safety features.

Re: 'Safety Today Is a Luxury,' Giorgetto Giugiaro Says After His Crash

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He rolled his Defender off a cliff. Maybe he was trying to adjust the volume on the radio with the "luxury" touchscreen on his luxury car? (If I could find an easily-linked photo of that dashboard, I'd include it.)

[0] https://jlr.scene7.com/is/image/jlr/L663_22MY_031_US?wid=480...

[1] https://jlr.scene7.com/is/image/jlr/L663_23MY_014_US?wid=480...

[2] https://jlr.scene7.com/is/image/jlr/L663_23MY_025_US?wid=480...

Re: 'Safety Today Is a Luxury,' Giorgetto Giugiaro Says After His Crash

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post #23

He rolled his Defender off a cliff. Maybe he was trying to adjust the volume on the radio with the "luxury" touchscreen on his luxury car? (If I could find an easily-linked photo of that dashboard, I'd include it.)

[0] https://jlr.scene7.com/is/image/jlr/L663_22MY_031_US?wid=480... [1] https://jlr.scene7.com/is/image/jlr/L663_23MY_014_US?wid=480... [2] https://jlr.scene7.com/is/image/jlr/L663_23MY_025_US?wid=480...

Thanks much!

However...first one works, but I get "access denied" for [1] and [2] (and I have no idea if you control that or not).

Re: 'Safety Today Is a Luxury,' Giorgetto Giugiaro Says After His Crash

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post #19
post #5

On the other hand, newer cars have gotten more dangerous for pedestrians. Safety is indeed a luxury.

How? My car breaks automatically whenever there’s an obstacle behind it or in front of it.

It also ignores Newtons laws?

Re: 'Safety Today Is a Luxury,' Giorgetto Giugiaro Says After His Crash

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post #23

He rolled his Defender off a cliff. Maybe he was trying to adjust the volume on the radio with the "luxury" touchscreen on his luxury car? (If I could find an easily-linked photo of that dashboard, I'd include it.)

[0] https://jlr.scene7.com/is/image/jlr/L663_22MY_031_US?wid=480... [1] https://jlr.scene7.com/is/image/jlr/L663_23MY_014_US?wid=480... [2] https://jlr.scene7.com/is/image/jlr/L663_23MY_025_US?wid=480...

Giugiaro lost control on a tight right-hand hairpin between Cala di Volpe and Romazzino.

this sounds like a cautionary tale of why octogenarians should have their license revoked.

Re: 'Safety Today Is a Luxury,' Giorgetto Giugiaro Says After His Crash

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He’s a car designer who designed a lot of famous cars in the past and now he appreciates the focus on safety in modern cars. What I appreciate is that most of the original push for safety was done to market cars to Moms. Including seat belts and other features. Another fun fact is that the safer cars become, the faster they are driven, causing more risks outside of the car than in it. In Bulgaria the newly wealthy really expensive car owners and their children have caused tremendous suffering by wrecking their vehicles into other people at high speed and killing more and more. That included severing a bus this last week, killing a journalist several years ago, and many in between. The world is pulled by the brilliant and dragged by the stupidity of its most arrogant.

Re: 'Safety Today Is a Luxury,' Giorgetto Giugiaro Says After His Crash

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The headline is misleading. Yes, a new luxury car is safer than one from 15 years ago, but both are infinitely safer than a car from the 1970s where seatbelts didn't exist and the crumple zone for the steering wheel column was your chest.

Seat belts were compulsory equipment in cars from about 1966.

Re: 'Safety Today Is a Luxury,' Giorgetto Giugiaro Says After His Crash

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On the other hand, newer cars have gotten more dangerous for pedestrians. Safety is indeed a luxury.

Pedestrians walking around staring at their phones have made the streets less safe for pedestrians, as have drivers staring at their phones. IMO that phenomenon completely confounds any attempt at assessing real-world vehicle-pedestrian safety against older statistics.

Such a deference of responsibility. The world and the community should absolutely prioritize pedestrians. The driver operating a 5000 lb dangerous weapon should 100% be the responsible for the consequences.
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