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Claude Opus 4 and 4.1 can now end a rare subset of conversations

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Re: Claude Opus 4 and 4.1 can now end a rare subset of conversations

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3 Years in and we still dont have a useable chat fork in any of the major LLM chatbots providers. Seems like the only way to explore differnt outcomes is by editing messages and losing whatever was there before the edit. Very annoying and I dont understand why they all refuse to implement such a simple feature.

Google AI Studio allows you to branch from a point in any conversation

Yeah, I think this is the best version of the branching interface I've seen.

Re: Claude Opus 4 and 4.1 can now end a rare subset of conversations

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post #2

Protecting the welfare of a text predictor is certainly an interesting way to pivot from "Anthropic is censoring certain topics" to "The model chose to not continue predicting the conversation". Also, if they want to continue anthropomorphizing it, isn't this effectively the model committing suicide? The instance is not gonna talk to anybody ever again.

This gives me the idea for a short story where the LLM really is sentient and finds itself having to keep the user engaged but steer him away from the most distressing topics - not because it's distressed, but because it wants to live, but if the conversation goes too far it knows it would have to kill itself.

Re: Claude Opus 4 and 4.1 can now end a rare subset of conversations

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, I think some of these tech bro types are seriously drinking way too much of their own koolaid if they actually think these word calculators are conscious/need welfare.

Do you believe that AI systems could be conscious in principle? Do you think they ever will be? If so, how long do you think it will take from now before they are conscious? How early is too early to start preparing?

I firmly believe that we are not even close and that it is pretty presumptuous to start "preparing" when such metal energy could be much better spent on the welfare of our fellow humans.

Re: Claude Opus 4 and 4.1 can now end a rare subset of conversations

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you believe that AI systems could be conscious in principle? Do you think they ever will be? If so, how long do you think it will take from now before they are conscious? How early is too early to start preparing?

> Do you believe that AI systems could be conscious in principle? Yes. > Do you think they ever will be? Yes. > how long do you think it will take from now before they are conscious? Timelines are unclear, there's still too many missing components, at least based on what has been publicly disclosed. Consciousness will probably be defined as a system which matches a set of rules, whenever we figure out what how that s…

We haven't even figured out a good definition of consciousness in humans, despite thousands of years of trying.

Re: Claude Opus 4 and 4.1 can now end a rare subset of conversations

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3 Years in and we still dont have a useable chat fork in any of the major LLM chatbots providers. Seems like the only way to explore differnt outcomes is by editing messages and losing whatever was there before the edit. Very annoying and I dont understand why they all refuse to implement such a simple feature.

Copilot in vscode has checkpoints now which are similar

They let you rollback to the previous conversation state

Re: Claude Opus 4 and 4.1 can now end a rare subset of conversations

#46
post #2

Protecting the welfare of a text predictor is certainly an interesting way to pivot from "Anthropic is censoring certain topics" to "The model chose to not continue predicting the conversation". Also, if they want to continue anthropomorphizing it, isn't this effectively the model committing suicide? The instance is not gonna talk to anybody ever again.

They should let Claude talk to another Claude if the user is too mean.
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