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Streaming services are driving viewers back to piracy

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Post by RajT88 »

bawolff wrote: post #91

Black markets are usually the result of failed markets, and i think its no different here. Copyright is a monopoly so there is no competition. Sure different streaming services compete with each other, but they essentially sell different products. It'd be like if only one resturant was allowed to sell hamburgers. There might be other resturants but they arent really in direct competition.

The streaming services are relying on enforcement to preserve their business model.

This only works as long as there's no other nations with significant digital infrastructure that can be used for VPN egress points who don't care a whole lot about US copyright enforcement (or copyright enforcement in general).

Our government just pissed off a lot of other governments. Enforcement is good within the US, but not outside, even nations which the US has a lot of control over.

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Post by Marsymars »

y-curious wrote: post #42
ModernMech wrote: post #36

Yeah, because you pay for the thing and you still can't watch it! Last year they brought Andor to Hulu and every time I played it on my brand new LG TV, the video would be completely green while I could hear the audio underneath. It only happened to Andor because apparently they had some super special DRM, which ostensibly would restrict people who weren't authorized from viewing it, but had the effect of also preven…

Fwiw the LG operating system kind of sucks. I got an Apple TV and it's been infinitely better. Paramount Plus was wholly unusable on the TV

I haven't bothered checking, but I assume the hardware sucks too - I'd expect the Apple TV SOC to be like an order of magnitude faster than any smart TV.

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Post by mxfh »

crooked-v wrote: post #9

To really sum it all up in one place, check out the absurdity of the official guide on where to watch the Pokemon cartoon: https://www.pokemon.com/us/animation/where-to-watch-pokemon-... And that doesn't even actually list the movies, which are even more fragmented.

What's the problem with that exactly? Legacy catalogs having some incomplete coverage? That the Pokemon Company can't make a good list if pressed? These are all not new or streaming Problems

The gist is here, that the complete first four season are on YouTube for free and the 5th is being added as we speak? (200+ episodes)

https://www.youtube.com/@OfficialPoke%CC%81monTV/playlists

There was nether the expectation with streaming that third party content doesn't rotate.

If you want a bit more persistent access you can buy them on Apple TV (Season 1-5 and 10-25)

Oh Boy, Pokemon is really not the example I would bring up here, when the aim is completeness on official channels:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_episodes_removed_...

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Post by RajT88 »

codedokode wrote: post #107

When billion dollar companies, which are praised and supported by governments, download pirated material and do not pay, why should ordinary people restrain themselves and pay? I cannot see how one can make moral arguments against piracy now. It makes no sense to pay if others are not paying and not punished for it. People also have a right to train their real neural network for free without paying.

The film and music industries really shot themselves in the foot when they got a tax on recordable media introduced in Canada.

OK, CD-R's and flash memory cost a bunch more now. Streaming is legal, because customers already paid the record companies for their music they downloaded and put on that media.

At least, someone explained this was the current state of Canadian law ~10 years back when I first visited.

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Post by VanTheBrand »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #4

All of these streaming services have started cracking down on family and friend account sharing to game their stock price. Turns out kicking off the broke college students doesn’t lead to them signing up for ~$80/mo. smattering of streaming services.

Except that so far results have shown that it does lead to a net increase in signups:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/netflix-subscriber-boom-th...

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Post by shoelessone »

parpfish wrote: post #108

i wish we could go back to a pre-streaming version of netflix. the near-infinite library and lack of algorithmic nudging resulted in an era where i had healthy view habits. reasonable levels of screentime and VERY diverse content. i add so many movies to my queue with the best intentions of watching them someday, but always put them off because something about staring at that endless scroll of options makes me crave…

I relate to this. Also, I am not the best person in the world, but recently this hit the point where I decided because of these very same thoughts + nudging from my much better partner to donate to NPR, to cancel Netflix and move that money to NPR. Now no more Netflix, which is sort of a relief in ways, and I have to be more intentional about what I download / consume.

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Post by barbazoo »

crooked-v wrote: post #9

To really sum it all up in one place, check out the absurdity of the official guide on where to watch the Pokemon cartoon: https://www.pokemon.com/us/animation/where-to-watch-pokemon-... And that doesn't even actually list the movies, which are even more fragmented.

And it doesn't even reflect availability outside the US it seems as my Netflix catalog does't have some of the seasons that list says it should.
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